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The tipped interception in Tecmo Super Bowl 2 happens very often. It's been discussed on this forum a couple of times. There is ways you can tip it and chase it and manage to catch it, however very difficult, but possible. A few years ago I had a tipped ball end up in a reception to the receiver it was thrown too. That game is crazy as hell. My favorite of the Tecmo games for it's harder difficulty.

Minnesota's defense is incredible in this game. One of the most underrated teams.

Seriously? A tipped interception in this game? Never seen it happen before TSB II on the SNES is notorious for this

I haven't been able to much SNES in the past 8 or 9 months for a lot of personal reasons. I have been so busy this past year working and getting back into music and setting up a recording station. Though lately I've had off time so I started playing the SNES again. I started a season playing every game, as I enjoy to do, when the cartridge accidentally got pushed in with the power on causing a reset, nice as you please. Since this reset happened, the behavoir of the teams in the new season seems to be identical to how they were behaving during week 8 when the reset happened. This is what happened in my first season before the reset Raiders - Started 5-0 and were kicking total ass until they ran into the Chargers and got destroyed 41-17. (7-1) This Raiders team was winning nail biter games, which was crazy as hell. The COM was nearly beating me every week. Then I played them with the Chargers and destroyed them, and the next week they were back to struggling like an average team. Falcons - Started 0-4, and then won 4 in a row in blow outs. Defense was playing lights out all of a sudden. (4-4) The Falcons are a great team in this game if you can handle their pass happy offense, and it was firing on all cylinders. Chiefs - Started out average at 2-3, but won the next few games, including a blowout 41-10 over Green Bay. (5-3) The Chiefs struggled on offense and was barely winning games until this blow out over Green Bay and then they started to look hot. Jets - Started out 2-2 and broke into a streak of 3 game wins with a high flying offense. (5-2) The Jets were topping an average of 300-400 yards a game before the cartridge reset. Now this is what happened with these teams AFTER the cartridge reset. (I am at week 5 currently) Raiders - Again winning nail biters, yet was destroyed by the Chiefs (45-14), they are playing like an average team. (3-2) I played against the Raiders as I did the other season when the Browns game came up, and the last season where they started 5-0, they injured Kosar and won 31-21. This time they won 28-21 on a nail biter after stopping the Browns from scoring on the final drive. Defense was all over the place. The defense played hot as the COM until the Chiefs game where they got dismantled by 40 points, now they're like an average team again. Falcons - This Falcons team started out juiced for the season playing hot like they did in my failed season. (1-4) The first two games (Detroit and New Orleans) went into Overtime where they lost by field goals. Their defense limited Barry Sanders and limited the Saints. Vs San Fran, they got a 13 point lead that they melted away to lose by 1 point, then vs Pittsburgh they lost by a field goal after trailing 24-0 and rallying to score 21 points in the fourth quarter. I have never seen the Falcons play like this where they can score and rack up big plays on constantly. Vs Chicago, they win in a blow out 38-7 (I like Atlanta this season, going to play out them and see what happens in the playoffs) Chiefs - Blow out team just as they were last season, (4-1) Minus a loss to Houston where I chose Moon. Trailing 28-3, they came back and made it closer at 35-24, where they got hot after a turnover. This Chiefs team can't stop scoring. Barry Word runs all over the place just like he did over Green Bay in my failed season, and the defense gets turnovers often, just as they were doing before the season reset. Vs Denver, they won 50-12 in a game where Elway threw 3 interceptions, and Bernstine fumbled twice, all of which lead to scores (offense barely mustered 250 yards in this game) Jets - Holy batman, this team can score some points. (4-1) The Jets offense is a scoring machine this season. Boomer Esiason is the QB that got me to 300 yards passing in 2 quarters (the quickest). These guys cannot be stopped. Outside the season opener loss to Denver (28-30, they were hard to stop then) they are extreme. Before the season reset, they were a high scoring offense that racked up yards, and points even with backup players. Nagle came in after Boomer went down and threw 300 yards as the COM vs me when I was the Giants. Alson in the last season; they managed to keep up with Buffalo and force OT, in the game where Boomer got hurt in the first quarter and Nagle played like a God. This season though, playing with them, I just don't understand how they play so hot. Even if I put in all backups, the backups catch everything, and Pat Chaffey runs well on handoffs. They had a three game win streak where Boomer threw for 300+, no interceptions and scoring 40 points in each game (Vs the Dolphins, they won 47-9, vs NE they won 45-7, and vs PHILLY they won 48-41) All four of these teams picked up their behavoir they were undergoing when the season reset. I could make the same observation with a few other teams,but I haven't paid attention to them like I have these. Cartridge resets half way into season, then start a new season, and these teams are flying high. It's crazy! Never seen the Jets and Falcons play so tough. It's like they are the 49ers and Bills this season!

Most of us on this board are referring to the SNES version, but if you do find crazy glitches on the Genesis, please share

Well, he's more accurate than Bono, and I managed to pick up Mike Croel since I let him go.

WR becomes QB I'm playing on my SNES with my new cart of this game and tonight the strangest glitch happened to me. Redskins/Chiefs. I did a trade mode season and let Bono go to Washington and made my man Blundin that starting QB. After half time, Bono disappeared in the stats all together when I went to check them, now WR REDSKINS 82 is the starting QB Bono is no where starting at all anymore. EDIT: Now WR Redskin 82 turned into Gus Ferrotte. Bono just disappeared all together. EDIT 2: On the state screen WR Redskins is the QB who went 50% completion for 49 yards. LOL EDIT 3: Bono has disappeared all together, he's not on the roster anymore. Pictures for proof. Sorry the quality is crap but here is my proof, also check out the stats on that WR, 1200 yards in one game LOL have no idea how that became.

Thought we could make a thread compiling all the glitches we've discovered from this game. This place is the only thing on the internet I know of that has experience and lists these glitches. I think we can find enough glitches in this game to give some of those well known glitch fest games a run for the money.

TSB II on SNES is my favorite. It's the hardest of the trilogy, and the only one with 3 full seasons to play with. I still play TSB III a lot. In my eyes, it's an easier version of II, with two major improvements; the COM no longer does that stupid 2 point conversion randomly when down only by 7 points, and the 2 point conversion itself has a full playbook and not just 4 bad plays to choose from. But on the downside, the field goal has become confusing, the computer is too easy this time around (Try II and you'll see the computer is actually tough) and it's the most glitch filled of all the SNES games. But the glitches are one of the reasons I love this game. TSB II don't have that many glitches. I'm in my 4th season and only discovered like 2 or 3 of them and they aren't even worth making a topic over.

That has happened to me plenty of times before with the original game. Can never explain it, it's hilarious. The game does what it wants to do from time to time.

I would like to make a TSB 1996 one day. Just switch Cleveland out as Baltimore. The expansion teams are already there. Would be awesome to play with that stacked GB team and that one good Carolina team before the 2000's.

I wouldn't know, I turned it off after that, it was glitching like crazy

Whatever happened to Brian Sipe, how come he don't get all this media love? I was talking to a Browns fan last month that I met locally, really nice old man and we were talking about the Browns and I asked him who he'd prefer; Sipe or Kosar? He said Sipe was the better QB and the 1980 team to him was a bigger heart breaker than both the 1986 and 1987 teams. In his words "Red Right 88 could have been prevented, 1986 and 1987 were failures on all counts". Sipe's best year was 1980 and was far better than both of Kosar's 1986 and 1987 seasons. 1980 should have been the Browns' year. They had that magic to them, and they gave the Raiders the toughest game of that post season. The Raiders managed to win by 10+ on San Diego and they stomped all over the Eagles. The Browns could have done that too that season. Compared to 1987, even though the Browns were good, you do have to admit, they played like shit against Denver. They let the Broncos run it down their throat, and even when the game was tied, they couldn't stop Denver. Blaming that entire game on Earnest Byner is not fair. Just my opinion, not trying to take away from Bernie and I know I might upset the Cleveland fans, but Sipe does at least deserve a little praise yet he gets none whatsoever. He's the only Browns QB in the Super Bowl era to win a season MVP. I think if Marty had Sipe back in his prime, the Browns would have put up those same impressive winning seasons, and probably even better. Bernie played 9 years in Cleveland, as did Sipe, and still Sipe out lasted him when it came to franchise records in statistics. Just imaging Sipe in his prime on the Schottenheimer Browns teams would have been an upgrade to Bernie but I still think they wouldn't have won it. And finally, let's be totally honest about those late 80's Browns teams. The Browns would have been DESTROYED by the Giants and Skins in those two Super Bowls, and everyone should know that. Even if they barely out lasted Denver, does not mean they wouldn't have got their asses kicked in the same way by much better NFC teams. They would have been demolished by that Giants defense in 86, that defense was one of the best ever. In 87, I highly doubt they would have been able to handle Washington's receivers when they couldn't stop the Broncos receivers for half of the day. I don't think the Browns would have stood a chance against Washington. Denver got shredded to pieces by no name Timmy Smith on the ground, as much as Cleveland struggled with Denver's receivers, I find it hard to believe they could have out lasted Washington in that Super Bowl. I'm not saying that to be harsh, but I find that 1987 Browns team to be very overrated. Everywhere you look, you hear about how Earnest Byner is the devil and how this is supposedly the best Browns team ever, but I'd take that 1980 unit over them. Strike or not, it don't matter, both the 1986 and 1987 team would have got their asses kicked hard by much better NFC teams, just as Denver did in the big one. It was still the era where the NFC flat out destroyed AFC teams, and those NFC teams were all across the board far better than the elite AFC teams. The 1980 Browns could have and probably more than likely should have beat the Raiders. Just look at how the Raiders romped over everyone after that. Now compare that to how Denver got stomped into the ground so hard in those Super Bowls. I don't think the Browns would have fared much better against those NFC teams than the Broncos did, but the 1980 Browns, I actually think were the better Browns team.

Winning the Super Bowl in Tecmo with Bernie Kosar was perhaps the greatest feeling I ever achieved in TSB I SNES. Then I remembered he's the original Kerry Collins and that made me feel a bit sad.

Today I encountered the most funky glitch I have ever seen!!!! Was playing around with the Rams, week 1, in GB. Packers are going down the field, near the red zone at the 7 yard line, then Favre throws a pass for Brooks with what would have been a TD but it's incomplete , and then the screen skips and glitches up all slanted looking. By slanted, I mean the field was at an angle. I wish I had screencapped this though it happened so quick, i didn't even think to pause it. The screen slants, now it's all messed up in glitch colors on the play selection, I select a play and then the screen flashes TOUCHDOWN before the ball has even snapped, then it goes to the animation of the TD, and it's like a running back scored, then it says "Touchdown Brett Favre, 93 Yards" by now I am laughing my ass off, i don't even know what to think. 93 yards? Well that's what it would have been in opposite since they were at my 7 yardline. It's a TD before the snap, yet the previous play Brooks dropped what would have been a TD. Wish i had recorded this for all to see, it was hilarious

Reed's "Fuck Bon Jovi" and the comment about booing the "mother fucker" Manziel made me laugh hysterically for days.

I take back everything I have said about the Colts and Pats. The Cardinals are hands down the worst team in the entire game. The defense has an OK linebacker corps with Stowe and Bankston for the rush, but I swear to Satan, that offense fucking sucks. Chandler isn't no good but he's way better than Timm Rosenbach. QB Cardinals AKA Rosenbach is the worst QB I have ever played with in a Tecmo game, period. I have shut the Cardinals out a record 4 times. At week 8, they've only scored 35 points total, while giving up over 305. I suffered my first shut out ever at the hands of the COM with this team. No Chandler, I was forced with Rosenbach and man oh man does he throw interceptions and fumble constantly. You can't even run that flea flicker play they have without being nervous cause low and behond, Rosenbach magically drops the goddamn ball and fumbles. Maybe I'm being too hard on the QB's and it's not all their fault cause this team drops more passes than anyone I have ever played with; Reeves can't catch anything, Johnny Johnson and Johnny Bailey love fumbling, Ernie Jones fumbles a-fucking-lot and on top of that, you have to worry about Rosenbach throwing poor passes that get picked off constantly, if Chandler is injured. At least Chandler throws it faster, I'll give him that. The ONLY good player on the entire offense is Ricky Proehl. He don't catch everything, but he can catch balls in double coverage when you're playing against them and he don't fumble as much as the other guys, but he still fumbles a lot. I am currently 0-4 in playing with these guys and have made it a conquest to at least win a damn game with this sorry bunch of scrubs. My last game was against the 49ers, whom I held Young to just 50 passing yards and 6 sacks....on the other hand I started 10-0 before having 5 fumbles in a row on the offense which all were turned for TD's, to go into the half 34-10. I scored 2 more TD's, fumbled two more times and threw an interception, but still lost badly at 24-41. 8 turnovers in one game, that is a record for me, also 5 fumbles resulted in TD's, including 3 returned all the way and the other two ending up at the red zone.

They are very spot on when it comes to the final season results. I find it hilarious how bad the Colts are despite the 9-7 record, it accurately sums up how bad they were in '92. Surprisingly Houston who went 10-6 is a much better team than the real record was. I would argue they are are a top 3 team in this game. I will do a run of the 1993 rosters too when I have the time.

I know no one ever plays this game, but I wrote this up for the hell of it. Maybe over time someone else will find it useful. This is my evaluations and overall ratings of all the teams in the 1992 season. I ranked all the teams of their divisions in the order I believe they are as best to worst. AFC EAST Buffalo Bills - Obviously the best all around team since this was their Super Bowl era. Offense - One of the best as you would guess. Injuries tend to plague them, and they have turnover problems from time to time. Defense - Average at best. They are not much of a challenge if you're playing against them, secondary gives up lots of deep balls, however the front line is useful if you're using them. Miami Dolphins - Dolphins won the division over Buffalo this year, and in some ways they are similar as opposites in weaknesses and strengths. Offense - The 3rd best passing offense period. Marino is well rounded in this season, and his receivers are strong. Main weakness is the running game, which will hold up during the season against weaker teams, but overall it's mediocre at best. Defense - Great front line, easy to rack up sacks, and their secondary comes up big in times when using the Dime formation but in other times, I find them to be an above average unit but not one I'd want to pick. New York Jets - One of the better dark horses in this game surprisingly. I really like the Jets in this game despite they only won 4 games. Offense - Ken O'Brien must start over Nagle. As long as Nagle is starting, you will not get a challenge out of these guys period. O'Brien can really light bad defenses up with Burkett, and the running backs are decent. Baxter will often break huge runs and the backup McNiel outshines the main starter. Defense - Average at best, if not below average. They perform well against bad offenses in particular and can be a pain to run on, but they cannot stop deep balls at all. The big play seems to be their death throes. Indianapolis Colts - The most overrated team in the entire 1992 season. The Colts lucked into a 9-7 year despite getting shut out 3 times (including back to back shut outs) and having one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Their record is meaningless, as they are accurately a very bad team in this game. Offense - Jeff George is very inaccurate in this game reflecting his 1992 season accordingly. The run game is very sloppy as Johnson is no where near explosive in this game as he was in TSB I (SNES) and he fumbles a lot. Their best wide receiver is Jesse Hester, and he's a backup behind Langhorne. That guy catches about anything, meanwhile everyone else drops easy passes or gets picked off easily. You're going to be turning the ball over a lot no matter how well you make George throw. Defense - These guys can't stop a nose bleed. Bickett is your best chance of getting sacks, other than that, you have to be on the ball against the run to stop it. it's possible and the secondary can stop some big passes, but they have a hard time tackling. Often times they will play well but then get gashed to the bone late in the game when you need those stops. Playing against them is easy to rack up 40 points on. How in the hell the Colts went 9-7 that year is beyond me, cause looking at the stats they were terrible, and this game is accurate with it. They are a bottom 4 horrible team. In all my games of playing with them, they are the hardest to win with. As an opponent they can give you fits from time to time, but they are so bad, they always end up shooting themselves in the foot with bad interceptions or horrible defensive play. How they won 9 games in 1992 is over my head, cause they normally go 3-13 in this game. New England Patriots - They went 2-14 and are pretty bad in this game. Zolak is a backup to Millen and from time to time they can be a challenge. In a way, they are somewhat better than the Colts in the way they give you a challenge. Offense - Zolak is better than Millen at QB, but overall this offense is very wobbly. Irving Fryar is the best player and you better really air it out to him. Run game is average at best but lots better than the Colts. Defense - An all around joke. From time to time they can give you real fits if you're playing against the COM, and Vincent Brown can rack up sacks in this game. He's easily the best player on defense. CENTRAL Houston Oilers - The best AFC team period in this roster. I have went a full 19-0 with them on this year and they have the best balanced offense and defense, though in times they have big flaws. Offense - The best offense in the game for passing with a top 3 QB. The Oilers are well rounded, Givens is probably the best receiver, though Duncan is very useful as well. Lorenzo White is the RB again and he's very useful though not a team you can run heavily with. Sometimes there can be big problems with protecting Moon. Defense - I love the Oilers defense. They can get picks rarely, and their front line will rack up sacks, but from time to time they break down and will give up huge plays. Playing against them can be tricky, though they can be quite average in times. I hold firm in my opinion that they are the best AFC team period. Pittsburgh Steelers - The Steelers won the division in 1992 and were very good in the regular season. Offense - As you all know, O'Donnell is not the best QB ever but there are plenty of weapons on this team. Barry Foster is a total beast, and if he gets hurt (always does) Thompson can come in as a big help. Dwight Stone is one of the best receivers in the entire game, and he can come in handy a lot. Defense - One of the best AFC defenses all around. Great front and the secondary is a big headache. Playing against these guys they can be a major pain, forcing big passes on them is a big no no. Rod Woodson and Greg Lloyd play great in the secondary. Playing against Pittsburgh can be a big challenge, they will down right destroy the big QB's like Moon and Favre, but their offense is their biggest weakness as an opponent. Cleveland Browns - Average is as average goes, but they have Bernie Kosar! Offense - Kosar is not a bad QB at all. I find him to be accurate most the time, though the run is much more efficient. Unlike TSB I (SNES) Eric Metcalf is a monster in this game. he still fumbles, but he can break off some big runs. Kevin Mack is an underrated gem too. Mark Bavaro at TE is the best receiver on the offense, as in times these guys can be pretty average. Defense - The definition of average. The secondary is great in times for interceptions, but they have a very hard time stopping the run and big plays. I've won a Super Bowl with these guys against Dallas, so they are not all that bad, but they aren't great either. Cincinnati Bengals - The last hoorah of a once great team. The Bengals are average too and in some ways much better than the Browns especially on offense. Offense - Boomer at QB is a hundred times better than David Klinger. Harold Green is a great running back, and the receivers are OK, Carl Pickens is a big winner. Defense - Average and some what below average. I'd take the Browns defense over them. With the Nickel, they can shut down average defenses but against the juggernauts, they are useless, especially against guys like Moon. WEST San Diego Chargers - Behold the team that started 0-4 and finished 11-5. The Chargers are well oiled machine in this game despite all their glaring flaws. Offense - Marrion Butts is the juice of this offense. They are a run first team, though Humphries is much better here than he was in TSB I (SNES). Anthony Miller is an underrated gem too. Defense - Chargers have the best defense in the whole AFC, period. Junior Seals is a beast, and Leslie O'Neal is great for sacks. The best thing about these guys is they can shut almost anybody down. Playing against them can be tough too, as they are one of the COM's favorite teams. Kansas City Chiefs - A step down from their normal Tecmo counterparts but still a decent team. Offense - This is the same offense in the other games, very pass heavy with a strong run. Only this time Krieg is not as good as Montana and the run game is weak since they were injured most of the season. Okoye is the better RB on this team but running it with them is much more difficult than other games. If you are passing it a lot, you better be ready to play strong defense cause these guys are not a powerhouse team on offense. Defense - Slightly better than what was on TSB I (SNES) and TSB III. Derrick Thomas is still a beast to be reckoned with and using Niel Smith is worth using every down. The secondary still racks up interceptions, Charles Mincy is the bomb. You could probably argue that the Chiefs are better than the Chargers but I take SD over them simply because the offense is better to run with. Oakland Raiders - My favorite West team and I believe they are underrated in this game. Offense - The Raiders have the best offense of the AFC West. Bold statement but I think I'm right. Schroder is a bad QB, and Marinovich isn't much better, but Tim Brown, Willie Gault, and Ethan Horton are great for catching balls. Nick Bell is an excellent running back and they are stacked to run the ball either way. They might not have a great QB, but they have all the right guns for an offense. Defense - Slightly above average. I tend to have a lot of success with the Raiders in this game, they accumulate turnovers, sacks, but in random games they get gashed bad against mediocre offenses that they shouldn't have problems with. Their main weakness is stopping the run, but they manage very well to shut down big passing games. Denver Broncos - Average team riddled with injuries. 8-8 is accurate. Offense - Elway is a step down in this game. Maybe it's the higher difficulty's fault I always end up throwing a lot of picks with him, and he never will finish the season not injured. Mark Jackson and Shannon Sharpe (for some reason he's a backup) are the best receivers. Everyone else is average and the run game can be very shaky though Greg Lewis can perform well. Defense - I hate this defense. If you're playing against them, they are a breeze to rack up stats on. Playing with them, you better know how to stop the run on contact and fast, because they miss tackles and get torn to pieces quite easily. Seattle Seahawks - Great defense, bad offense. Offense - Do I even have to say it? This is the worst offense in the entire game. Oh and there is no Mcgwire for laughs. Chris Warren is a damn good RB but he gets injured very often. Defense - Strange enough the Seahawks have one of the best defenses in the entire game. Avoiding their disastourous offense, it's easy to use these guys to rack up sacks and stop a running game. Secondary can be shaky at times but overall, it's shocking how great their defense can be. Even playing against the Seahawks, their defense has given me a lot of bad games in the past. NFC EAST Dallas Cowboys - The best team in the whole game and rightfully so in 1992. Offense - Quite possibly the best balanced offense of the game (or S.F.). Aikman is very accurate, almost too accurate for his own good. You'll have an easy time throwing it, and he's very hard to intercept. Though Emmitt Smith is the main gun of the offense. He'll get injured as he always does and you'll have to throw it but that's not a problem. Michael Irvin is slower than Alvin Harper but his hands catch most passes, and Jay Novacek is a damn good Tight End. Defense - One of the best defenses in the entire game, and the 2nd best defense of the NFC. Dallas can shut down just about any team, and playing against them they are a challenge in times, yet they fold badly when you have a good passing game going. Ken Norton and Charles Haley are great for pressure, and the secondary in times gets slashed, though they get picks often. I might be overrating the Cowboys a bit, but their offense is ridiculous in this game. No matter how many times you break up Aikman's passes, you'll rarely ever intercept him, and their defense seems to do a great job stopping the run even though they are easy to throw on. Philadelphia Eagles - Live and die on QB Eagles Offense - As I said it, the Eagles are all about Cunnigham. Once he's injured, they are done. Walker is a good running back from time to time, and the offense is loaded with great receivers. Synder, Sikahema, and Barnett are great. Defense - Reggie White is a big plus, he will rack up a lot of sacks, and they can manage well against the run, though break down against good guys like Emmitt Smith. The secondary is slightly above average. They perform well in times but will get destroyed by Aikman, Young, and the other big name QB's. New York Giants - An underrated quality team despite a losing season. Offense - Either QB is cool with this team. Simms and Hosteler aren't the fate of the team. They have 3 great RB's and then 1 good one. You can easily run the ball down anyone's throat, choose your weapon. Dave Meggett is tough to bring down but gets injured. Baker is a good receiver, and Mark Ingram is on here but more than anything, you're going to want to run the ball. Defense - Average at best. They are the leftovers of that 1990 squad. Lawrence Taylor (56) is great to use in getting sacked but he'll get injured. The secondary is OK. If you're playing against them, they are a very bad defense and can be blown out easily. Washington Redskins - Super Bowl hang over. Offense - These Redskins are no where near as good as they were in previous games. Rypien is a pain to play with, often throwing many bad interceptions. The receivers are still good but the playbook is a big problem, and Earnest Byner is easily the most reliable person on offense. Defense - These guys are no good on defense. I take that back, the front line is decent, but that secondary is total garbage. Get ready to have a lot of frustrating times against them, especially vs the Eagles and Cowboys. Even when you play against the Skins, their defense is a total joke as an opponent. I take the Giants over the Redskins very simply, it's because their offense is a hundred times better, and the defense isn't near as bad. Phoenix Cardinals - Junk Offense - Chandler is one of the worst QB's in the game. The playbook kills this team worse than anything, but the receivers are decent. Reeves catches many passes in double coverage, and Randall Hill is worth using. The run game is pretty shaky mostly cause there is not any great running plays. Defense - Garbage, just garbage. I don't have to go through this. CENTRAL Minnesota Vikings - Could have been the dark horse of the NFC Offense - Gannon is not the best QB but he's worth the struggles here. The Carter receivers are great, but more than anything you're going to be pounding the ball with Terry Allen. Even playing against the Vikings, they can be somewhat frustrating. Defense - The best defense of the NFC Central, period. John Randle and Chris Doleman are monsters on defense. You will be using these guys if you want sacks, and playing against them, they are great at sacking your quarterback. McMillian and Parker are not worth getting picked off by in the secondary, and playing with Minnesota these guys come in handy. I take the Vikings over the Pack here cause their defense is pretty damn good, much better than the Pack's as you will see. Green Bay Packers - Slightly above average team that is overrated Offense - Brett Favre is here, that's all. The Packers offense is quite overrated in this game. Favre has a huge arm and can throw deep balls, but Sharpe is the only reliable receiver. The run game is terrible, and the only other decent receiver is Brooks, and he fumbles a lot. Jackie Harris is worth the TE position but this offense is seriously lacking the talent they have on later Tecmo games. Defense - This defense is down right terrible. No Reggie White means absolutely zero pressure. Many times they are easy to destroy as an opponent, and playing with them is frustrating to stop decent offenses. Chicago Bears - Below average Offense - Harbaugh is awful in this game. I don't know what is wrong with the Bears offense, they are terrible and very easy to destroy. Harbaugh is an interception machine. Defense - This defense is surprisingly pretty decent. They have their moments, they aren't always great but from time to time they can pick up and be very tough. Woolford is one of the best defensive backs in the entire game and he will be giving you fits from time to time. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Make it stop already! Offense - Vinny Testeverde is not very reliable in this game. He already suffers from a bad o-line, and he has bad turnover issues with fumbles and very horrible interceptions. DeBerg is a lot better but the offense is still severely lacking. Reggie Cobb is a great RB, but the receivers are no where near as reliable as I found them to be in TSB I (SNES). Oddly, the Bucs can give you quite some fits playing against them, that is until Vinny throws a pick. Defense - Broderick Thomas is one of my favorite Tecmo players, and he is very handy on this team along with Dotson. Those two guys are your entire defense, good luck. Detroit Lions - The most overrated team in this game, period. Offense - This is a great lineup. That is until you realize how bad they really are. Barry Sanders is as good as always but man does he have some fumble issues when you play as him, and/or gets injured often. Rodney Peete is very bad in this game, but the receivers are decent. The o-line is bad, and you will be getting sacked a lot. Defense - These guys need a lot of help. The secondary can get interceptions from time to time and I find the Linebackers to be useful but they have a hard time stopping the run, and that's what kills them the most. WEST San Francisco 49ers - #2 to the champions. Offense - You know the drill. Young is at his absolute best in this game, and the offense is all around damn good. Running and passing is very easy with these guys, it's the Niners of course. As an opponent, the main thing that works against them is a great linebacker core. The Saints are typically the main team that can beat them into the ground. Defense - These guys have some problems on defense. Playing with them, they look great and get stats, but have a bad habit of giving up huge plays. Playing against them, I find them to be above average and can be aggravating but not much. This is their main weakness and if you can stop the offense and ride their defense down the field, they are beatable. New Orleans Saints - Best defense in the game, average offense. Offense - If you rearrange the starting lineup, they aren't that bad. Craig Heyward is a very good running back that can mow his way through guys. He should be a starter, while Hilliard should be on the backup (he was a special player back in the day). Herbert is average, while Buck is down right horrible. Eric Martin is a decent receiver. Defense - The best defense in the entire game, bar none. The Saints linebacker core is down right terrifying, and add Wayne Martin to the mix, and they are even better. Typically you can shut out most teams with these guys. Playing against them is down right frustrating as hell cause they can plow through any o-line in the game. If it weren't for their mediocre offense, the Saints would be a top 3 team. Atlanta Falcons - Impressive...most impressive Offense - Atlanta's offense is well rounded for racking up passing stats. Miller is a good QB, and the receivers are damn good. Andre Rison is the most reliable. The run game is very bad though thanks to the playbook and shaky o-line. So you pay the price for the stats. Defense - Not a bad unit when it comes to pressure and a good line, but their secondary is terrible. Playing against them, they tend to have success shutting down the pass, but that's a different story when you play as them. L.A. Rams - Same story, different game. Offense - Everett is one of the better QB's in the game that don't get a lot of credit. Anderson and Ellard are still the hands of the team. Gary is not a bad running back, overall this offense is decent. Defense - Average at best. They aren't always terrible, but they aren't as reliable as they should be to make the Rams a Super Bowl team. RANKINGS Overall Offense 1. Oilers 2. 49ers 3. Cowboys 4. Bills 5. Eagles 6. Dolphins 7. Steelers 8. Packers 9. Giants 10. Browns Passing Offense 1. Oilers 2. Bills 3. Dolphins 4. 49ers 5. Cowboys 6. Falcons 7. Packers 8. Raiders 9. Eagles 10. Saints Rushing Offense 1. Cowboys 2. Steelers 3. Giants 4. Bills 5. 49ers 6. Saints 7. Lions 8. Eagles 9. Chargers 10. Raiders Overall Defense 1. Saints 2. Cowboys 3. Chargers 4. Oilers 5. Steelers 6. 49ers 7. Chiefs 8. Vikings 9. Seahawks 10. Eagles Rushing Defense 1. Saints 2. Chargers 3. Cowboys 4. Oilers 5. 49ers 6. Steelers 7. Seahawks 8. Chiefs 9. Dolphins 10. Vikings Passing Defense 1. Oilers 2. Steelers 3. Dolphins 4. 49ers 5. Saints 6. Cowboys 7. Bills 8. Chargers 9. Falcons 10. Vikings

You guys are so close to the 80's, I am totally joining for 1980 this time for 4 real.

Seems the A.I. is obsessed with going for 2 points when they score a TD if you are up by more than 7 points. If you start the game up 10-0, every time the A.I. scores, he's going to go for 2 unless he's getting a TD for the lead. This rule also applies outside of the 7+ point lead. If you lead for that lone TD for longer than 1 quarter, when the computer scores, they will go for two points so randomly, rather than tying the game. I've been toying with this for a while and this is the conclusion I come up with it. Even if it's a tight game and you lead 7-0 for longer than 1 quarter, it don't matter when the COM scores, he's still going for two. It's like they made the computer to be more aggressive in this game though the logic can be stupid if the two pointer fails (as it normally does) but from time to time you have some of those weird games that Tecmo always has, and the computer can beat the shit out of you starting with a come back from 7 points down, getting the two point conversion 8-7, and since the defenses in this game get turnovers more often, you can easily screw up and get your ass beat by the computer. If only the computer always played better offense in this game (it is better on offense compared to older games, but still not a threat unless you're playing against a top tier offense like SF, Houston, or Miami), it would be like playing a juiced rom. Despite the flaws to this game, I find the 2 point attempts to be hilarious.

Sadly! It is one of the best parts of this game besides the harder difficulty. I wonder if it would be possible to hack it into TSB III.

But it has the DEBERG!!!

In TSB II, the 1992 roster is there if you select 1992 schedule. I don't think it would be too hard to copy those from the game and paste them into a rom of this version.