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^ This. Request for editable file of that .PDF, please.

I agree that this base ROM should not have the PA/PC hack. I thought this had been agreed upon. It doesn't make sense because... A. It's meant to be an unedited base ROM (save for the options / playbook / 32-team additions. B. Anyone looking to use this to make a ROM can apply the PA/PC hack themselves, if their intent is to actually start making code changes in TSB. C. Anyone not looking to make coding changes, and is likely just using this to make roster/stat changes, will likely not even realize that a PA/PC hack exists.

Let's hope that this latest series of pixel debates is anywhere near as entertaining as the Green Bay exchange.

Correct. I'll shoot that off to Jstout today, and do a final review of the ROM for any additional tweaks.

^ Let's see it happen!

Nice, Buck!

I still think that the clock is one of those game variables that most people can't seem to get over when it's been adjusted in the past. But I'm totally down with this concept, and it's worth trying to perfect. There's no reason we couldn't have an operable and sensible "15:00 quarter" TSB quarter.

If this equation could be perfected, this could rock. When I tried changing the clock to 15 minutes in 2009ish, we didn't have as much information about run off timing as we do now. I would be super pumped to make this work. A test needs to be made to make sure plays per game match up as evenly as possible.

This is the most productive alteration Jacksonville is going to make this season.

If TSB was released using 15-minute quarters, and players were used to the fact that a single play could eat up way more time (including the '7-second' runoff on the play select screen), I'd say this idea would be worthwhile. But the clock timing in TSB is too engrained now for this to work in the intended manner.

Seriously, Knobbe, get off this site's jock.

I take offense to the term 'Buck Groupie.' Also, you don't hold a candle to anyone, dude. In this place, you're nobody. I'll be the first to congratulate you on the day that you do something worthwhile for TB-org, though. Also, also, Mr. Rogers was the man. You'd have been lucky to polish that guys shoes.

[ Last Updated | 9.07.2013 ] Implemented updates in the first post. As far as I know, and as long as Buck is done with the rosters, we should be all set on this. Buck let me know where you're at with the final roster draft, and I'll send them ROM over to Jstout and see if he can fix the red "Tecmo" text bug on the main menu options blue screen.

What's funny is, your idea about what all of this is in your mind (minus the meat head syntax of your chosen language) is basically how I thought about this place when I first started to really participate in this forum and not just lurk in 2007ish. I said then, "It's just a message board. It's not a community," when people talked of it as a "community," using that word specifically. At the time, Knobbe had kind of let the place go to shit. He was real busy, and there was probably about twelve regularly posting members. It really was a shell of what it is now, or what it had been in its first few years. I started challenging the forum with ideas about COACH only mode, football game design, and etc.. Buck hated it. Oh, man. The shit storms he and I would get into. Bruddog, Buck, Jstout, Jeid, Bodom--it's all there in the archives. Slowly but surely, people started to participate in game development conversation outside the 100th RS/RP/MS stat debate. I think at the time, there were about three tournaments that people talked about. Now there are dozens. Not only did this site grow exponentially, but so did the output. Members had already invested huge sums of time in researching this game. In tinkering with it. In making playable products for others in this specific Website group to enjoy. Since 2007ish, you could probably multiply that investment of time by this forum's membership a dozen times over. I realized early on after I wrote that this place wasn't a community (because I was seeing how empty it was when I initially joined on, and otherwise generally thinking as you are now) that I was wrong. Maybe it was in stasis; at the time, it was definitely under-developed. Now it's vibrantly active. Over 100,000 downloads (just from this site) of the TB-org released ROM over the years. Over 13,000 Facebook fans, with hundreds of them reading about TSB updates every day. Our game release has been picked up on time.com, maxim, cbssports, and more. There are more things to do on this site, to read about, and to participate in, but it's still the same thing that is was when I first started to participate--the same thing it was before I started to participate: A bunch of dudes, primarily, talking TSB, setting up online leagues for TSB, making Live tournament dates to play in-person, spending hours upon hours editing the game for other people's edification. That's a community, dude. I mean, fuck--Bodom has even come to see a stage play I've directed in-person with his wife--that's pretty community based, I'd say. I was wrong when I said it wasn't a community back in the day, and you're wrong now. You can choose to see that or not. It doesn't really matter, because your input isn't needed. Your opinions don't matter around here, ultimately. And while Buck or someone else can spend time jaw-jacking with you, it's only because we're interested to engage different opinions--although some of us engage differently. The reality is that in the end, you mean nothing to this place. Maybe that changes some day, and you start producing something other than textual opinions. Until that day comes, though, you're just another part-time passerby. I only choose to engage you because I'm the kind of guy that enjoys 'conversation-based' diversions from the Johnny Johnson thread. Have a nice day!

It's worthwhile enough that you come back. Again. And again. Soo... what's your point, chief?

Reach.

I have no place in this conversation, but I thought I would share my ideas about threads like this. When it gets to make-or-break situations, my overall TB-org community philosophy is as such: do you, as a member, add something productive/a contribution to the community/site, or do you just take advantage of everyone else's dedication, and think that just by your sheer participation in online leagues or threads have some 'value' to the community? If you don't add anything of value to the community, in terms of substantial output, you're just another consumer with nothing other than an opinion and warm body. And last time I checked, we have plenty of those. I'm not saying consumers aren't desired or appreciated, but know your role.

I asked this question in 2009. http://tecmobowl.org/topic/10839-players-getting-the-bump/?view=findpost&p=94012&hl=%2Bthe+%2Bbump

ABBA all the way. Surely, it's not the best game. But co-op NES games were hard to come by in the mid-80s!

My list. Sports: Bases Loaded, Blades of Steel, Double Dribble, Excitebike, Kings of the Beach, Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!, Pro Wrestling, R.B.I. Baseball, Skate Or Die 2: The Search for Double Trouble, Super Dodge Ball, Tennis, Urban Champion, Flying: 1943: The Battle of Midway, Tiger-Heli, Top Gun, Shooting: Cabal, Ikari Warriors, Punisher, The, Adventure: Bionic Commando, Blaster Master, Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse, Code Name: Viper, Contra, Gauntlet, Goonies II, The, Kid Icarus, Kung Fu, Legend of Zelda, The, Little Nemo: The Dream Master, Mega Man 2, Metroid, Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos, Paperboy, P.O.W.: Prisoners of War, Rampage, Shadow of the Ninja, Street Fighter 2010: The Final Fight, Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario Bros. 3, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, TMNT II: The Arcade Game, Wrath of the Black Manta, Puzzle: Bubble Bobble, Arkanoid, Dr. Mario, Marble Madness, Pinball, Tetris, RPG: Crystalis, River City Ransom, Board Game: Monopoly, Conflict, Driving: R.C. Pro-Am, Super Off Road, Super Sprint,

Every time I watch tape of football from the 80s and under, I can't help but notice how much softer everyone seems to be playing. Though it isn't possible, I wish football could take a step back in this regard.

^ Reggie Bush was barely even Reggie Bush (in the NFL).

THERE IS ONLY ROOM FOR RATHMAN. >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY726D982B8

This report is in error. The NFL is phasing out the military salute celebration, and many others... http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/06/nfl-cracking-down-taunting-off-the-snap/?sct=nfl_t2_a6

My work on the intro was all found in Tile Layer Pro. I definitely needed the visual layout to find them out.