Tecmo-Mad-Brad

Ah the Skins defense...great mention.  2 elites in Manley and Marshall.  Mann is really good too, and really only 1 of 2 worthwhile bottom DE players in the game, so i think that makes Mann a little more valuable.  Green and Wilburn have really good speed ratings, but get the short end of the stick with accel and initial.  Very viable options, but not elite DB's IMO.  Overall really great group of players from FIVE different key spots.  Honestly, Washington can definitely "show" more legit looks than any other team out there.

 

I gotta say, on my site I have Chicago's defense ranked 1 spot ahead of Washington  but it could really go either way.  I rocked 6 straight shut outs with the Redskins defense once.  They can F'n kill people.  

 

Offensively Washington is very damn mediocre.  Russ Grimm has some hitting power, and Gary Clark has some wheels, but nothing that will really torch you.  Timmy Smith ain't doing shit.  Darrell Green is the most un-clutch motherfucking kick returner of all time.  If he was half of what gentry was, the skins would be far more scary.   Below average kicker, and a really good punter.

 

Field position is huge in Tecmo Bowl, and I love a good punter.  Washington has that, but they don't dabble in 2 realms of excellence like Chicago with special teams.  

 

Washington with Browns playbook would basically be the Browns...slow ass Smith for slow ass Mack....defenses calling a lot of pass.  Chicago with the Brown's playbook would be unstoppable.  defenses scared of Payton torching them.  Washington with the colts playbook would be pretty good...but again defenses could hammer on pass calls.  The Bears with the Colts playbook would be unstoppable.  In those scenario's Payton is the key.  Now with San Fran's playbook.....it allows for Payton to do less, so that evens things out, BUT you can't overlook Gentry torching kick off units.

 

Payton and Gentry are quite the duo. 

The Japan 49ers are unfair.  They are stupid good.  I think their bottom DB is pretty good as well, and bottom DE Pierce Holt is pretty decent as well.  He must have good initial or accel.  If the Japan Vikings didn't have the bogus playbook they would be ranked 3rd!  Seriously!  As is, we rank em like 6th in Japan Tecmo.  That defense of theirs is lethal...however its missing a presence up front on the bottom side.  

 

It like taking their USA defense with Doleman and Browner, then adding Frank Minnifield to the bottom DB spot, and then adding Fredd Young  to the top MLB position.  Its like they have 4 elite defenders out there.

 

When Japan SF's offense and their defense face off...its the fastest bout in Tecmo Bowl.    

Dickerson was included in the 1st USA release in 89.  When he got all cunty and didn't want his likeness on the game they re-released it with Bentley.

 

The japan version we speak of was only released in Japan for the Famicom, had Albert Bentley, and was in the goofy little black cartridge.  Same game and all, but had roster changes and such to coincide with the latest season.  A few of the teams were drastically better/worse.

One more nugget to throw out there since it hasn't been discussed yet.  QBs.  We've really learned how to lock down Miami.  Its still a bit of chore to beat them, but we take away the shotgun play, and MAKE Marino throw into tight windows a lot of the game.  Miami's pass 1 ans Pass 2 are really bad pass plays when defended correctly, but Dan has the lazer to gun up against Singletary, Carter, Young, Mecklenberg, etc, and beat all those teams IF he plays perfect or perhaps tosses only 1 pick.

 

Put a marginal or mediocre guys like Kosar in that situation or Williams, and Miami would fall off a cliff in our rankings.  Put Payton on the Dolphins, and that would force us to go away from a lot of those shot gun calls and roll with a lot of run calls and pass 1......and that would open up the ever dangerous Pass 3 for Miami making them the Miami of old, which was really good on offense. 

 

I like to look at how the defense would have to change their game-plans for when you plugged a certain player into some other playbook, and not always how well the Skins would do with a better playbook as I illustrated above.  Joe Morris on the Dolphins would not a make a difference one bit.  Dickerson sure would.  

 

I also feel that Payton with the Redskins or Vikings playbook would have a decent impact as well.  Surely good for an extra yard or 2 per carry with the occasional big cut-back Juke.  Give the Skins the Bears semi-lack luster playbook and they would operate it less efficiently with Smith running instead of Payton.

Yes!  Great thread right here!  The Bears IMO have the most talented team from top to bottom.  One draw back is that some of their most talented guys are not in the most beneficial positions though, when compared to other teams.  Chicago also has a somewhat conservative passing playbook that hampers them a bit as well.
 
Bears defense has more elite defenders than the Giants.  Singletary, McMichael, and Duerson are all in that elite realm.  Giants only have LT and Banks, but the edge goes to the Giants studs being book-end defenders, and able to avoid runs plays better, and work pass coverage schemes better as opposed to the Bears 2 guys up front being in the middle of the field.
 
Walter Payton.  One of the best weapons in the game for keeping a defense honest.  Nuff said!
 
Dennis Gentry.  Kick return champion of the universe.  Ive had this guys take 2 to the house in 1 game!  I had this fool once take 5 to the house over a 5 game stretch and rock a couple more into field goal range.  He's on a level all his own, even though he shares the same attributes as McNeil, but theres one glaring difference.  Gentry has 1 elite blocker in Hilgenburg blowing holes open for his kick returns, and another in Covert who is also way above the average blocker's hitting power.  That makes him double dangerous, and those guys also popcorn defenders for Payton....meaning 2 less defenders that can make a cheap diving tackle.  
 
Kevin Butler...strongest leg in Tecmo Bowl.  Doesn't sound like a lot, but when you consider that with our rules and only using LB to try and block field goal attempts, any time Chicago gets inside the 45, its good for at least 3 points...that's huge.  Obviously LT will block those kicks, but Butler can still attempt kicks vs the Giants from 10 yards out and have a shot.  Only a couple others could even try. 
 
Butler's top range for the line of scrimmage is the 46.  The worst in Tecmo is 37 yards out.  That's basically 1 less first down for 3 points.
 
Talent laden defense.  Key game changing offensive player.  Elite squad in 2 of the 3 special teams categories.  They are fat cats.   
With all that said, I still rate the Giants and 49ers higher than them.        
 

Finally dug out my TSB cart tonight.  Finished off a season with the Pats for some practice.  my 1st games of TSB in about a year.  Man they fumble the damn ball a lot!  

The rankings Matt linked to are old, but Seattle sits at 7th right now. Fredd Young dominates on defense, but their abysmal kicking game...especially piss poor punter really sinks them. The offense overall is ok, but really doesn't dominate in either the pass or the run.

The good news for Seattle is that in most games they put together a drive where they look unstoppable but overall their play book is so-so and they can be defended quite well on 3rd and long with a trifecta call.

Largent is easy to eliminate by calling pass 1, which creates computer controlled coverage on pass 2 and the top DB covers Largent all day. The only targets open are very close to each other. Curt Warner is a pretty average RB as far as Tecmo Bowl is concerned, so you can key on the pass a bit more than against other teams.