SBlueman

Looks great, thank you! Hopefully the Broncos don't go with a white helmet. They used them last year and I was not a fan. 

Here's a copy of the game with the facemask on the Browns large helmet edited:

The mini-helmet though is where I get thrown off...

TSB_Base_32-Team_ROM_2024.nes

Thank you @jstout, that did the trick! Hopefully the Lions and Broncos don't have too drastic of a change and we can call the 2024 base rom set. 

Looks like the Lions, Texans, Broncos and Jets are going to be sporting new uniforms this year. So far the Lions and Broncos new unies haven't leaked, the Texans uniform changes aren't drastic enough to make a change to the helmet but the Jets have announced they will be going with their "Sack Exchange" uniforms as their primary uniforms. I was able to edit the jets mini helmet logo, large helmet logo and facemask. However, I have no clue as to how to change the Jets mini helmet facemask to white (like the Bills, Dolphins and Chiefs). Anyone know how to make this change? Attached is a file of the base rom with the updates I added:

TSB Base 32-Team ROM 2024.nes

Here are some more set commands shared by @War6:

#Late Season Com Coverage
SET (0x19519,  0xEAEA)

#Stats Screens between quarters
SET (0x24194, 0x20C3CA2074CC2090F02061C6)
SET (0x241E1, 0x20C3CA2074CC2090F02061C6)
SET (0x27090,  0xE2209CAE062014C9E23060)

#Franchise QB Hack
SET (0x19C41, 0xA9F1BF)
SET (0x19C4F, 0x4CC99B)

#Disable menu drum loop music
SET (0x8062, 0x00)
SET (0xBF1B, 0x00)

#4th Quarter COM Punt Logic (Punt +9 until the 2 minute warning XPLOZV):
SET (0x262C7, 0xC90900B003)
SET (0x263B9, 0xEAEA)
SET (0x26402, 0xEAEA)
SET (0x26293, 0xF03A)

I also had this one in a chat thread on another site (hat tip to @War6 over on X for the help on this one!):

#NES-Style field graphics
SET(0x159B94, 0x630E630E)
SET(0x159B9A, 0x630E630E)
SET(0x159BB4, 0x630E630E)
SET(0x159BBA, 0x630E630E)
SET(0x159F14, 0x80018001)
SET(0x159F1A, 0x80018001)
SET(0x159F34, 0x80018001)
SET(0x159F3A, 0x80018001)
SET(0x159F74, 0x365B365B)
SET(0x159F7A, 0x365B365B)
SET(0x159F94, 0x365B365B)
SET(0x159F9A, 0x365B365B)

I figured I'd see if we could get a list together of set commands for the SNES TSB 1 that work. I scoured the site some and found these so far:

#Timing of Snap Exchange b/n C & QB
SET(0x196A0,0x01)

#Better Tackling Without COM Diving
SET(0x197F4,0xA230EAEAEA90DBE220A90120DE804CD697E220A90120DE80)
SET(0x198D2,0xA230EAEAEA90A7E220A90120DE804C8098E220A90120DE80)

#Faster Handoffs, Pitches, Snaps & Player Control
SET(0x1B989,0x01)
SET(0x1B9B8,0x01) 
SET(0x1B9C6,0x01) 
SET(0x1BA1D,0x01)

#Shorter Punts & Arc of Punts
SET(0x19F50,0x33)
SET(0x19F3B,0x60)

#Increased Kickoff Length (16yd to back of endzone)
SET( 0x1B3D6, 0x4CE6CF )
SET( 0x1CFE6, 0xA50D4AA50C6A1869BAA8A9016900AA4CE1B3 )

#Kickoff Positions & Arc of Kickoff
SET(0x1B3E6,0x3C)
SET(0x10C6C,0xA060A207)
SET(0x1005B,0xA0A0A208)

#Changing the differential for popcorning/ dl busting through
SET(0x18BB8,0xB16338F1039163AD0002293F187163300BC90E9007C93490064C8E8C4C158D20B0C3EAEAEAEAEA) Headed rom
SET(0x18BB8,0xB1639163AD0002291F187163F1039008C91DB007C904B0064C158D4C8E8C20B0C3EAEAEAEAEA) Headerless rom

#COM defensive coverage late in season
SET(0x19519,0x5cada680ea)
SET(0x26AD,0xad0202c98090045c06a5835c428883)

#SNES TSB I CPU Find Open Receiver (no header)
SET(0x191c7,0xe2202060d0c035d005a9034ce8914ce491eaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaea)
SET(0x1d060,0xe230a000984868a8c4919005f003a08060c8b70329f04a8592d0034c38d1b70329f04a4a4a)
SET(0x1d085,0x4a85930a0a1865938593b703290f0aaa9848a008b163300dbd00f38506bd01f385074cb4d0)
SET(0x1d0aa,0xbd16f38506bd17f38507a214a008b163300dbd16f38509bd17f3850a4cd3d0bd00f38509bd)
SET(0x1d0cf,0x01f3850aa015b106d109901cd00788b106d1099013a014b10638f109850cc8b106f109850d)
SET(0x1d0f4,0x4c07d1a014b10938f106850cc8b109f106850da50dd021a50cc592b01ba017b106d109900a)
SET(0x1d119,0xb10638f109c5934c2ad1b10938f106c5939007caca30064cb6d04c66d068a860)

#set targets for passing plays
SET(0x162d9f,0x9384)
SET(0x1631f3,0x9451)
SET(0x162cb7,0x935422)
SET(0x163570,0x635421)
SET(0x16388b,0x935442)
SET(0x163bf9,0x945342)
SET(0x163c38,0x935422)
SET(0x163d0e,0x945332)
SET(0x163fc6,0x945331)
SET(0x162e56,0x93945531)
SET(0x162fd5,0x94634531)
SET(0x16333e,0x93744522)
SET(0x1637a7,0x93515442)
SET(0x163a8e,0x94734221)
SET(0x163ab2,0x93544521)
SET(0x163b26,0x94925355)
SET(0x163b84,0x94634132)
SET(0x163bb8,0x93924431)
SET(0x163cb8,0x93947255)
SET(0x163d4c,0x93756442)
SET(0x163ea2,0x94725321)
SET(0x163a4a,0x9483755221)
SET(0x163aef,0x6364454221)
SET(0x163b5f,0x9473452221)
SET(0x163c7b,0x9395546122)
SET(0x163d7d,0x9374524531)
SET(0x163daf,0x9394817562)
SET(0x163dec,0x9395844221)
SET(0x163e29,0x9483553231)
SET(0x163e6d,0x8371544522)
SET(0x163ee1,0x9573624421)
SET(0x163f03,0x9495524331)

#NES-Style field graphics

SET(0x159B94, 0x630E630E)
SET(0x159B9A, 0x630E630E)
SET(0x159BB4, 0x630E630E)
SET(0x159BBA, 0x630E630E)
SET(0x159F14, 0x80018001)
SET(0x159F1A, 0x80018001)
SET(0x159F34, 0x80018001)
SET(0x159F3A, 0x80018001)
SET(0x159F74, 0x365B365B)
SET(0x159F7A, 0x365B365B)
SET(0x159F94, 0x365B365B)
SET(0x159F9A, 0x365B365B)

#Late Season Com Coverage
SET (0x19519,  0xEAEA)

#Stats Screens between quarters
SET (0x24194, 0x20C3CA2074CC2090F02061C6)
SET (0x241E1, 0x20C3CA2074CC2090F02061C6)
SET (0x27090,  0xE2209CAE062014C9E23060)

#Franchise QB Hack
SET (0x19C41, 0xA9F1BF)
SET (0x19C4F, 0x4CC99B)

#Disable menu drum loop music
SET (0x8062, 0x00)
SET (0xBF1B, 0x00)

#4th Quarter COM Punt Logic (Punt +9 until the 2 minute warning XPLOZV):
SET (0x262C7, 0xC90900B003)
SET (0x263B9, 0xEAEA)
SET (0x26402, 0xEAEA)
SET (0x26293, 0xF03A)

Are these correct? If not, are there updated versions? And does anyone else have any set commands they want to share and add to the list? As the list grows I'll update this first post to catalog the codes like in the NES version's thread.

8 BitDo Pro 2 Bluetooth.

Thanks for the props. I'll be the first to admit though that I am by no means some wiz Tecmo editor. Everything I've learned about editing the game I've found on this site thanks to countless hours of work over the last 20+ years by numerous members who have reverse engineered the game. Honestly, the most difficult skill I bring to the table is being able to copy and paste. If you can fix whatever the issue is with not being able to edit games, you'd be able to adjust games to however you see fit. If you can copy and paste, you can pretty much come up with an edit like mine and others.

Player grades are so subjective, everyone has their own way to come up with them. I try to edit the games using various factors to come up with the player ratings. But you are never going to find an edit that you'll agree with 100% since everyone is going to have a different outlook on who should get what. The 32-team TSB 3 project is the best hope that I know of and @DrunkenGamer has been working on this since 2015. That gives you an idea as to how much work it can be to get these done. 

But if you can find a way to edit games it'll open up a new world of possibilities for you. 

The ask is a pretty big project for anyone. You asked for 10 different versions in your original post:

Quote

SNES and SEGA GENESIS TECMO SUPER BOWL III : FINAL EDITION USING MODERN / LEGENDARY/ NCAA PLAYERS AND TEAMS? CAN SOMEONE MAKE AN XFL/ WORLD LEAGUE/ CFL/ ARENA

The amount of work and time that would take would be staggering, especially for people who do this as a hobby and still have to punch a clock for a 9-5 to keep a roof over their heads. 

My first question to you would be...what is stopping you from using a computer to download TSBTool and dabbling in editing versions to your liking? All the editors can be run on the most basic windows PCs and laptops. I can walk out of most retailers with a laptop for less than $300 that can run everything you'd need. And as you can see, we can use more people editing games since there are so many yet to be put together. 

As for why is TSB3 not represented well? The fanbase for the original is so much bigger than TSB3. Because of that you've had many more people over the years spend time reverse engineering the NES version to find out how to edit what. I know I won't ever dabble in editing TSB2 or TSB3 myself, they aren't my cup of tea. 

Lastly, you might not mean to come off wrong but take a step back and re-read your posts out loud to yourself. It reads as more of a demand that has to be met than an ask. That doesn't go over too well, especially with a crowd that knows how much work and time it would take to get those versions done. I'm just thankful that we have the versions we do have and am grateful for any others that get released. 

DL - 38/13/6

LB - 63/25/6

DB - 81 /50/19

That seem reasonable as Max/Mid/Min values?

Thank you for the reply, that helps out a bit for what I am working on. What would you suggest the min/max value per position? Are you going as low as 6 for only some positions or all? And would you cap DL and LB values lower? Bruce Smith and LT bring that 81 but that IMO is way too high for a DL or LB. 

On 9/5/2011 at 2:25 PM, buck said:

 

ok, here's what I did - keep in mind I had already rated the team OG style for INT only:

 

got a list of TEAM PASS DEFENSES (from football outsiders) from 2010, ranked 1-32.

 

after the teams were sorted, I put them in groups of 8

 

1 thru 8 - COVERAGE equals 1 NOTCH BOOST over INT

9 thru 16 - COVERAGE equals EQUALS INT

17 thru 24 - COVERAGE a 1 NOTCH DECREMENT over INT

25 thru 32 - COVERAGE a 2 NOTCH DECREMENT over INT

 

this rule is applied to everyone on the defense.

 

if there needs to be exceptions to certain players, I will make them on an individual basis.

 

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So, in summary, I'm using this 'coverage' variable based off of initial INT rating (plus 1, even, minus 1, minus 2). Applied globally to a team defense, based on where the team pass defense ranks overall. So, it's pretty close to original INT and I don't feel too bad or good about it, yet. Must test.

Trying to figure out how to re-rate players with this mod. So using @buck's method, this is what it would look like for the original game:

What I am not clear on is do you edit the quickness value for just DBs or all players on defense? And if it's all players, what do you do with DL's and LB's who have high ratings? Example, Bruce Smith would get a bump from 81 to 88. That just doesn't seem right. Are there caps that should be in place for DL & LB spots? Or is there a standard scale that people use for this hack?

Glad to see you are enjoying the game @keyice!

With the release of the Final Edition of Tecmo Super Bowl 2023, here's a preview of Super Bowl LVIII. This preview was run with the HARDTYPE + P2 ROAD HACK version:

He'll be QB1 in the final edition that's coming out soon. 

I use YY-CHR to edit the font. There are three different spots to find in the rom, here are screenshots. You can either copy and paste a font set from another game or had edit each character. :

12 hours ago, BO FB Offtackle Left said:

Want to put Dickerson in?

I started down this road but couldn't resist tweaking ratings and I got carried away. Now I have a half finished mess lol

When I do edit Dickerson in, these are the stats I go with:

Hampton should be at least RB3 and Lewis Tillman should have gotten a spot in the game. Hampton also gets a bump in MS to 44 in my edits. 

That is gorgeous, I love what you did with the mini-helmets to logos. Also, amazing idea with the end zones changing to the color of the teams on the field. 

Found one more (first post updated):

Change PHX P Rich Camarillo's face from 1B (light) to AA (dark)

On 11/21/2023 at 3:51 AM, neetocheeto said:

Is there a way to make teams 2-3-6? cause 3-4 gets burned hard with new plays and Ai. I understand its very old game or make LBs 1 and 4 cover Receivers and 2 and 3 cover RB instead of blitz and leave 2 players wide open. Thanks for your time and efforts 🙏

I am pretty much at my limit to what I can change in the game with my skillset. If anyone smarter than me can update the defenses then by all means feel free to have at it. I tried to add the 4-3 defense to the game but some hacks won't work with that version.

Love it! Keep up the good work @Raphael Edo!

I haven't been able to find clear instructions on how to do this. I find it maddening when there is a matchup that has teams both wearing dark jerseys or when the uniforms don't match the actual matchup from the real NFL game. Does anyone have instructions on how to edit the uniform matchups in TSB 1?

Back in the day I remember it threw me off as well. To this day I have no idea what "supplemental" file it's referring to or what the extension or file type it is. I do like the editor though, especially the feature where you can change the alternate uniforms and see a preview of what each matchup would look like. Kinda wish TSB Tool had that feature. 

I don't think that hack has ever been shared with the TSB community. Same as the 2pt conversion hack. Unfortunately for all of us it's the author's prerogative so if/until he decides to share we just have to try to either figure it out amongst ourselves or just hope one day it sees the light of day. 

Here's a link to the 4-3 defense hack: