TSBe - beta1

cxrom · November 28, 2007

yeah thats a pretty dated version.

Well, I did sim a season of the 32 team rom. I'm not sure if I had the latest version, but at the end of the season, it read the NFL standings, but only listed the AFC West everytime.

Then in the divisions in the main menu, the teams were in different divisions. I.E. the NFC North division was the NFC West division.

I may have played an earlier version of the rom and that might already have been fixed by now.

all been fixed

I also noticed the graphix in the NFL Playoff tee on the helmets were a little off.

not critical, but will be fixed evenutally.

Any fix for the "hut, hut, hut" sound?

sorta. now its just a "Ready!" :mrgreen: .

philleyOphish · November 28, 2007

Sounds great. I'm glad things are coming along as well as they are.

kefkaroth · November 28, 2007

what about making the nfl rankings read more accurate as well as making the schedule 32 teams.

kefkaroth · November 28, 2007

one more thing there's also problems withthe nfl standings like why is the giants and redskins in the same division with the chargers. i hope this can get fix soon as well.

philleyOphish · November 28, 2007

one more thing there's also problems withthe nfl standings like why is the giants and redskins in the same division with the chargers. i hope this can get fix soon as well.

yeah thats a pretty dated version.
all been fixed

TomTupa · November 29, 2007

R.I.P. TSBe.... We hardly knew ya

mrubino723 · December 9, 2007

i cant wait for this to be complete and i can put this on my PSP. my emulator works pretty good on it. all my NES games work perfect.

MrBeef · December 9, 2007

you do realize it has been complete for over a week?

mrubino723 · December 9, 2007

lol i didnt even realize it. i was just following this thread... i have been so busy with school. gotta go download it now. thanks for the heads up!

MrBeef · December 9, 2007

np. enjoy cxroms hard work.

sofakingood · December 9, 2007

i cant wait for this to be complete and i can put this on my PSP. my emulator works pretty good on it. all my NES games work perfect.

Which EMU did you put on your PSP? Did you have to do anything "special" to get it on there as well as some ROMS? Thanks ahead of time.

mrubino723 · December 9, 2007

i am not sure which one it is that on there, my friend at work did something special to my psp. he has all the psp games out there and i just swap them back and forth from my memory stick. i have 13 games on there right now. http://www.pspiso.com this 32 team rom works perfectly on it

BAD_AL · January 3, 2008

Does anyone know the address where the Attributes (RS, RP, MS, HP ...) start for the new team players?

The location I have written down is wrong.

cxrom · January 3, 2008

right after the original 28.


; cpu addresses
SF_ATTS	equ $BCCC
STL_ATTS	equ $BD41
SEA_ATTS	equ $BDB6
ARZ_ATTS	equ $BE2B

absolute_addr = (cpu_addr & 0x3FFF) + 0x10;

BAD_AL · January 5, 2008

Ok now I need to know the addresses of the following:

1. sim offense & defense for new teams

2. kick and punt returners for new teams

3. offensive formation for all teams (the old location looks to have different data in it now).

cxrom, can you help me out?

cxrom · January 6, 2008

sim data is at 0x199C1:


Sf_simdata:	.hex 47011503645664562243218316251624	; NFC-WEST
	.hex 15241523156414643A2A40303E3E240D
	.hex 0D0D140C080C080C08104A54544A9441

Stl_simdata:	.hex 28021503754654853255229428372736
	.hex 17252726146413532A4E4E44241E2C10
	.hex 0D0B10081010180808084A4A4A549896

Sea_simdata:	.hex 49012302839764553255229517251725
	.hex 1625272615641464463A2A323A243A10
	.hex 10100C0C0C08080808085F544A54A4DB

Arz_simdata:	.hex 1703250285A744242455325529262926
	.hex 13941523146413534C3A461E2E183210
	.hex 0F0D110C0C0C080C080C4A4A4A54A9E0

KR/PR is at 0x3F93C:


	.hex 44998855

offensive formations are at 0x3F940:


Base_off_form:	.hex 00000000
	.hex 00000000
	.hex 00000000
	.hex 00000000

	.hex 00000000
	.hex 00000000
	.hex 00000000
	.hex 0000	; probowl
	.hex 00000000

i provided the data that you should be looking for just in case.

BAD_AL · January 6, 2008

Great!!

Thanks cxrom.

I've got all this implemented in the next version of TSBTool (which I'm going to call TBToolSupreme, because it will be able to edit TSB nes, your 32 team ROM, and TSB1 for the snes).

Also, you forgot to mention that the PR/KRs for the new teams is at 2 locations, 0x32cb2 and 0x3F93C.

By the way, do you think that the name section for the new teams might grow in subsequent releases of the ROM?

If so, I'll put some of the ROM location data into a config file rather than hard coding it.

MrNFL · January 6, 2008

This TSBTool Supreme sounds pretty excellent. Without your SNES tool, none of my roms would have happened. Keep the good work coming Al.

SBlueman · January 6, 2008

Great!!
Thanks cxrom.
I've got all this implemented in the next version of TSBTool (which I'm going to call TBToolSupreme, because it will be able to edit TSB nes, your 32 team ROM, and TSB1 for the snes).
Also, you forgot to mention that the PR/KRs for the new teams is at 2 locations, 0x32cb2 and 0x3F93C.
By the way, do you think that the name section for the new teams might grow in subsequent releases of the ROM?
If so, I'll put some of the ROM location data into a config file rather than hard coding it.

Would you be able to implement editing team uniforms and formations for all 32 teams in the next release?

suprmnxxx · January 6, 2008

Great!!
Thanks cxrom.
I've got all this implemented in the next version of TSBTool (which I'm going to call TBToolSupreme, because it will be able to edit TSB nes, your 32 team ROM, and TSB1 for the snes).
Also, you forgot to mention that the PR/KRs for the new teams is at 2 locations, 0x32cb2 and 0x3F93C.
By the way, do you think that the name section for the new teams might grow in subsequent releases of the ROM?
If so, I'll put some of the ROM location data into a config file rather than hard coding it.
Would you be able to implement editing team uniforms and formations for all 32 teams in the next release?

PLease BAD_AL say you can implement editing the unies and fromations you are the tool god for sure(GREAT WORK ON ALL YOUR TOOLS).

SBlueman · January 6, 2008

Another question....does anyone know if this 32 team rom is compatible with the Playbook Swapper tool?

BAD_AL · January 6, 2008

Great!!
Thanks cxrom.
I've got all this implemented in the next version of TSBTool (which I'm going to call TBToolSupreme, because it will be able to edit TSB nes, your 32 team ROM, and TSB1 for the snes).
Also, you forgot to mention that the PR/KRs for the new teams is at 2 locations, 0x32cb2 and 0x3F93C.
By the way, do you think that the name section for the new teams might grow in subsequent releases of the ROM?
If so, I'll put some of the ROM location data into a config file rather than hard coding it.
Would you be able to implement editing team uniforms and formations for all 32 teams in the next release?

I don't really know anything about editing the uniforms?

Do we know how to do it for SNES TSB1, tsb and cxrom's 32 team ROM?

If so, could someone please give me the info.

Formations are done for all teams on my current development branch.

MrNFL · January 6, 2008

JG Games' STUE program edits jerseys for SNES 1, I imagine there's a copy floating around here. Since I got my new laptop, it doesn't work for me anymore. (I hate Vista)

bruddog · January 7, 2008

I'm 99% sure that it should be. But give it a try just to make sure.

Another question....does anyone know if this 32 team rom is compatible with the Playbook Swapper tool?

SBlueman · January 7, 2008

I'm 99% sure that it should be. But give it a try just to make sure.

Ah cool, thanks for looking into that.

I don't really know anything about editing the uniforms?
Do we know how to do it for SNES TSB1, tsb and cxrom's 32 team ROM?
If so, could someone please give me the info.
Formations are done for all teams on my current development branch.

Hopefully this will help. I found this thread and it had this posted in there:


for the jerseys - 
	first hex value = helmet/pants color
	second hex value = non-white player's skin color
	third hex value = shirt/socks/pant stripe color

first 3 hex values = jersey 1 
second 3 hex values = jersey 2

last 4 hex values = take the hex, convert to binary, 
	0 = first jersey, 1 = second jersey,
	bit 1 = buffalo, bit 28 = atlanta, 
	bit 29 = AFc, bit 30 = NFC, bits 31 and 32 = 0
	(the bits are in parenthesis for the 'alternate jersey' switches)

Pointer to Team with 3 jerseys (one hex value) - x2C250
	00 - Buffalo -> 1B - Atlanta, 1C = AFC?, 1D = NFC?, 1E = no team	
Use Jersey 2 vs Team #s: x2C296, x2C29A, x2C29E, x2C2A2
Use Jersey 3 vs Team #s: x2C2A8, x2C2AC, x2C2B0
Team Jerseys (using above style): x2C410 to x2C418 

------------------------------------------------
		Original Rom
------------------------------------------------

Team         Hex Location          Hex Code                   (Binary of last four hex values)
Buffalo 	     x2c2e4 - 25 06 11 15 06 21 00 00 00 00 (00000 0000 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
Indianapolis 	x2c2ee - 30 06 11 30 06 11 00 00 00 00 (00000 0000 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
Miami 		    x2c2f8 - 30 16 1c 30 06 2c 50 10 6c 20 (01010 0000 00100 00011 01100 0010 0000)
New England	  x2c302 - 30 06 25 30 06 24 86 22 41 80 (10000 1100 01000 10010 00001 1000 0000)
NY Jets		   x2c30c - 30 16 09 09 16 30 f5 5c 69 a0 (11110 1010 10111 00011 01001 1010 0000)
Cincinatti	   x2c316 - 26 06 0f 26 06 30 d0 d0 04 30 (11010 0001 10100 00000 00100 0011 0000)
Cleveland	    x2c320 - 26 06 30 36 06 17 80 20 93 00 (10000 0000 01000 00100 10011 0000 0000)
Houston		   x2c32a - 30 06 21 21 06 30 70 04 49 a0 (01110 0000 00001 00010 01001 1010 0000)
Pittsburgh	   x2c334 - 0f 16 28 28 16 0f 00 62 92 40 (00000 0000 11000 10100 10010 0100 0000)
Denver		    x2c33e - 11 06 26 01 06 26 c0 01 00 60 (11000 0000 00000 01000 00000 0110 0000)
Kansas City	  x2c348 - 25 0f 30 25 0f 16 00 00 00 00 (00000 0000 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
LA Raiders	   x2c352 - 31 16 0f 10 16 30 40 84 2c 30 (01000 0001 00001 00001 01100 0011 0000)
San Diego	    x2c35c - 38 06 11 01 16 30 f7 dd 6d ff (11110 1111 10111 01011 01101 1111 1111)
Seattle		   x2c366 - 31 16 11 31 06 30 e0 c1 2c 60 (11100 0001 10000 01001 01100 0110 0000)
Washington	   x2c370 - 16 0f 30 06 0f 30 02 00 00 00 (00000 0100 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
NY Giants	    x2c37a - 0f 16 11 11 06 30 84 d0 2c b0 (10000 1001 10100 00001 01100 1011 0000)
Philadelphia	 x2c384 - 29 06 30 29 06 30 00 00 00 00 (00000 0000 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
Phoenix		   x2c38e - 30 0f 16 31 0f 16 52 22 01 00 (01010 0100 01000 10000 00001 0000 0000)
Dallas		    x2c398 - 10 16 01 10 16 01 00 00 00 00 (00000 0000 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
Chicago		   x2c3a2 - 0f 16 30 0f 16 30 00 00 00 00 (00000 0000 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
Detroit		   x2c3ac - 31 06 21 10 06 11 21 04 00 00 (00100 0010 00001 00000 00000 0000 0000)
Green Bay	    x2c3b6 - 38 06 09 38 06 30 48 80 00 20 (01001 0001 00000 00000 00000 0010 0000)
Minnesota	    x2c3c0 - 14 06 30 14 06 30 00 00 00 00 (00000 0000 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
Tampa Bay	    x2c3ca - 30 06 27 30 06 27 00 00 00 00 (00000 0000 00000 00000 00000 0000 0000)
San Francisco	x2c3d4 - 38 06 25 28 06 15 92 20 05 40 (10010 0100 01000 00000 00101 0100 0000)
LA Rams		   x2c3de - 11 06 38 21 06 38 40 49 24 00 (01000 0000 10010 01001 00100 0000 0000)
New Orleans	  x2c3e8 - 28 16 0f 28 06 30 80 c0 30 10 (10000 0001 10000 00001 10000 0001 0000)
Atlanta		   x2c3f2 - 0f 16 00 10 0f 30 08 80 20 00 (00001 0001 00000 00001 00000 0000 0000)

Team with 3 jerseys - x2C250 - 0a
	Jersey design x2c410 - 25 0f 30 25 0f 16 15 0f 30
	Jersey 2 vs. teams:
			x2C296 - 03
			x2C29A - 0e
			x2C29E - 16
			x2C2A2 - 17
	Jersey 3 vs. teams:
			x2C2A8 - 00
			x2C2AC - 05
			x2C2B0 - 06

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