COM keeps trying onside kicks in OT....can this be fixed?

[SBlueman]

I got this message from someone the other day on Twitter:

Does anyone know what needs to be changed so the COM never kicks an onside kick in OT? 

 

 

 

[bruddog]

Is the overtime untimed or something? The onsides kick logic for the com should always trigger a regular kick unless the clock has less then two minutes left in overtime.

 

But that logic should be impossible to trigger since overtime is sudden death in regular unhacked tecmo.

 

If that logic is somehow being triggered  it is a 75% chance the com will onsides.

[SBlueman]

Do you mean this hack:

 

 

If you do, no that isn't installed. Aside from the hacks added with the Tecmo Hack Setter Tool (Add touchbacks, FG length max of 65 yards, Punt length max of 65 yards) , these are the hacks installed in the vanilla version. 

 

#Add 'Hut' Pre-Snap Cadence to 32-Team ROM
#https://tecmobowl.org/forums/topic/64562-32-team-rom-huthuts-download/
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SET(0x36497,0xA90C8D15408D1040A9958D1240A9208D1340A91F8D15404CED81A90C8D15408D1040A9C08D1240A9298D1340A91F8D15404CED81A90C8D15408D1040A99D8D1240A9198D1340A91F8D15404CED81A90C8D15408D1040A9A48D1240A96A8D1340)

#NFC West Sim Fixes
SET(0x273b4,0x20b69f)
SET(0x27479,0x20b69f)
SET(0x27481,0x20b69f)
SET(0x27fce,0xe0)

#Player 2 Conditions Fix
SET(0x30E55,0x20809F)
SET(0x31F90,0xA66EE46DF00218603860A66EE46DF00218603860)

#FG avoid kick block fix
SET(0x293E1,0x8D) 
SET(0x293EB,0x8D)
SET(0x29487,0xAC)

#TE sim fix
SET(0x175CB, 0x05)

#Change offensive SIM to 'out of 32' sum
SET(0x18117,0x00081018202830384048505860687078)

#Prevent schedule from being random
SET(0x3220A,0x20B3C4A9C08D01A060)

#Fix Playoff Seeding
SET(0x23247,0x86)
SET(0x2324C,0x8E)
SET(0x23251,0x7E)
SET(0x23256,0x76)
SET(0x232A1,0x7F)
SET(0x3F770,0x77)
SET(0x23288,0x8A)
SET(0x2328D,0x92)
SET(0x23292,0x82)
SET(0x23297,0x7A)
SET(0x3F77D,0x83)
SET(0x3F785,0x7B)
SET(0x1e6d9,0x315354)
SET(0x1e6e0,0x345448)
SET(0x1e6e4,0x324E44)
SET(0x1e6e8,0x315354)
SET(0x1e6f0,0x335244)
SET(0x1e6fb,0x324E44)

#More NFL like QB rating value
SET(0x318A0,0x7D)
SET(0x318B3,0x0C)
SET(0x318D4,0x08)
SET(0x318D9,0x00)
SET(0x318E0,0xFA)
SET(0x31908,0x14)
SET(0x31916,0x8C)
SET(0x31946,0x08)

#TEAM ROSTER instead of 1991 ROSTER after super bowl winner end game
SET(0x16d9c,0x000000000000000000D8D9C0C1DADBC2C300000000000000000090918C8D86878E8F0000000000000000000000009400000086000000000000000000A99091CC8892939E0000000000000000009DD8D9C0CFDADBC2000000000000000000C194A900C3868800)

#Set Pro Bowl Kick/Punt Return
#https://tecmobowl.org/forums/topic/53997-probowl-hacking-kr-pr/
SET(0x328d1, 0x0A0A) Sets RB4 as both KR and PR in Pro Bowl

#Change Touchback To 25-Yard Line
SET(0x25077,0x38)
SET(0x25090,0xC8)

#15 Yard XP
SET(0x246B0,0x1C)
SET(0x24E38,0xE4)

#Changing KR Speed
SET (0x08100,0x0048ECF303EFE4DFFEFF)

#PR speed change from SS to actual PR player
SET(0xAADD,0xB10000EFE4DFFEFF)

#Better INT returns
SET(0xBFC5,0xF710E100E00CE303E4DFFEFF)

#Add stats after quarters
SET(0x22113,0x4E)

#QB backpedal animation hack
SET(0x289F0,0x04)
SET(0x28A12,0x04)

#Kickoffs From 8 Yard Line To 3 Deep In Endzone
SET(0x02a538,0xB8)
SET(0x029281,0x0718692520CBDAA5732904D0164C9DA4)

#Better COM punt timing
SET(0x29323,0x4C2493)
SET(0x29337,0x0F) 
SET(0x29340,0x40)

#PA/PC hack - PC is INT and PA is target
SET(0x29FEC,0x88)
SET(0x29E54,0x20F79F)
SET(0x2A007,0xA0874CDD9F)

#Punt coverage boost adjustment
#http://tecmobowl.org/forums/topic/4162-shorter-punts-rom-hack/?do=findComment&comment=36038
SET(0x8170,0xE200E300)

 

Edited August 25, 2022 by SBlueman

[bruddog]

Downloaded the vanilla version and could not duplicate the failure. 10 times in a row the computer DID NOT kick an onsides kick. 

[SBlueman]

Well, thanks for looking into it at least. Appreciate the effort. 

[SBlueman]

Error was just recreated in the TecmoBowl.org Super Bowl prediction:

 

 

[Knobbe]

3 hours ago, SBlueman said:

Error was just recreated in the TecmoBowl.org Super Bowl prediction:

 

On 8/24/2022 at 8:34 PM, bruddog said:

Is the overtime untimed or something? The onsides kick logic for the com should always trigger a regular kick unless the clock has less then two minutes left in overtime.

 

The OT in this instance was untimed

[bruddog]

So ya playoff overtime where its untimed is the problem. 
 

One solution would be to make the untimed playoff overtime a 99 minute overtime.

[Knobbe]

18 hours ago, bruddog said:

So ya playoff overtime where its untimed is the problem. 
 

One solution would be to make the untimed playoff overtime a 99 minute overtime.

 

 

I had the original movie file so I was able to replay the game and then manual change the time to 99:99 before the kickoff.

The computer then kicked off down the field instead of OT.

The game became more dramatic but in the end, the result remained the same.

 

 

[SBlueman]

Is there a way to set the OT clock so it's at 99:99 by default for untimed OTs in the playoffs?

[bruddog]

2 hours ago, SBlueman said:

Is there a way to set the OT clock so it's at 99:99 by default for untimed OTs in the playoffs?

Yes

[SBlueman]

Ok, would you or anyone want to share how? And would the OT still be a first team that scores wins scenario?

[bruddog]

SET(0x22186, 0xA999856A856B)

 

This replaces setting timeouts to zero for each team in untimed overtime to setting the clock to 99:99

 

 

[SBlueman]

Right on, thanks! This did the trick, no more onside kicks on playoff OT's. I added it to the latest version of my 2022 edit. I'll add this to the set command list too.