Unlocked Historic Players' Abilities

[superhartman]

Hi!  Huge TSB3 fan.  At one point (circa 1996) I unlocked the historic players after winning 3 consecutive Super Bowls with the same team.  I made a spreadsheet with each players' abilities mapped out.  I lost my file over time.  Has anyone else mapped each player and their abilities?  I would love to have this again.  Thanks!

[Miles Prower]

Hi, I booted up TSB3M and these are all the historic player ratings.  Guide: RS = Run Speed, RP = Run Power, MS = MS, HP = Hit Power, BB = Body Balance, AG = Agility, PS = Pass Speed, PC = Pass Control, PA = Pass Accuracy, AR = Avoid Rush, CL = Coolness, BC = Ball Control, RC = Receptions, INT = Interceptions, QU = Quickness, KP = Kick Power, AB = Avoid Kick Block, KA = Kick Accuracy.

QB1 - #16 QB G Niners (Joe Montana) RS: 69, RP: 25, MS: 19, HP: 13, BB: 19, AG: 38, PS: 56, PC: 81, PA: 81, AR: 81, CL: 88
QB2 - #12 QB G Jets (Joe Namath) RS: 69, RP: 25, MS: 13, HP: 13, BB: 19, AG: 44, PS: 75, PC: 69, PA: 81, AR: 75, CL: 81

RB1 - #34 RB G Bears (Walter Payton) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 75, HP: 31, BB: 75, AG: 81, BC: 69, RC: 38
RB2 - #32 RB G Browns (Jim Brown) RS: 69, RP: 63, MS: 63, HP: 69, BB: 38, AG: 56, BC: 50, RC: 19
RB3 - #40 RB G Bears (Gale Sayers) RS: 69, RP: 69, MS: 63, HP: 31, BB: 88 AG: 88, BC: 69, RC: 31
RB4 - #34 RB G Raiders (Bo Jackson) RS: 69, RP: 50, MS: 75, HP: 38, BB: 63, AG: 75, BC: 69, RC: 19

WR1 - #88 WR G Steelers (Lynn Swann) RS: 69, RP: 56, MS: 56, HP: 13, BB: 75, AG: 81, BC: 69, RC: 81
WR2 - #19 WR G Chargers (Lance Alworth) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 63, HP: 13, BB: 69, AG: 69, BC: 69, RC: 75
WR3 - #80 WR G Seahawks (Steve Largent) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 31, HP: 13, BB: 31, AG: 38, BC: 75, RC: 81
WR4 - #81 WR G Redskins (Art Monk) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 44, HP: 13, BB: 38, AG: 50, BC: 69, RC: 75

TE1 - #0 (89) TE G Bears (Mike Ditka) RS: 69, RP: 25, MS: 50, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 19, BC: 69, RC: 50
TE2 - #87 TE G Raiders (Dave Casper) RS: 69, RP: 63, MS: 44, HP: 56, BB: 38, AG: 50, BC: 69, RC: 75

C - #52 C G Steelers (Mike Webster) RS: 69, RP: 56, MS: 44, HP: 81, BB: 44, AG: 56
G1 - #73 G G Patriots (John Hannah) RS: 69, RP: 44, MS: 50, HP: 81, BB: 50, AG: 38
G2 - #63 G G Raiders (Gene Upshaw) RS: 69, RP: 56, MS: 56, HP: 81, BB: 31, AG: 63
T1 - #78 T G Raiders (Art Shell) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 31, HP: 88, BB: 25, AG: 25
T2 - #78 T G Bengals (Anthony Muñoz) RS: 69, RP: 31, MS: 44, HP: 94, BB: 25, AG: 38

DL1 - #75 DE G Rams (David Jones) RS: 50, RP: 50, MS: 69, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 69, INT: 6, QU: 75
DL2 - #75 DT G Steelers ("Mean" Joe Greene) RS: 44, RP: 56, MS: 31, HP: 88, BB: 13, AG: 38, INT: 6, QU: 56
DL3 - #74 DT G Rams (Merlin Olsen) RS: 44, RP: 63, MS: 38, HP: 81, BB: 13, AG: 44, INT: 6, QU: 69
DL4 - #0 (70) DE G Colts (Art Donovan) RS: 56, RP: 44, MS: 69, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 63, INT: 6, QU: 81
DL5 - #54 DT G Cowboys (Randy White) RS: 44, RP: 63, MS: 38, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 56, INT: 6, QU: 69
DL6 - #75 DE G Raiders (Howie Long) RS: 50, RP: 44, MS: 63, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 50, INT: 6, QU: 69

LB1 - #56 OLB G Giants (Lawrence Taylor) RS: 63, RP: 44, MS: 75, HP: 69, BB: 56, AG: 69, INT: 31, QU: 88
LB2 - #51 MLB G Bears (Dick Butkus) RS: 56, RP: 69, MS: 56, HP: 75, BB: 50, AG: 63, INT: 31, QU: 81
LB3 - #59 OLB G Steelers (Jack Ham) RS: 56, RP: 50, MS: 63, HP: 69, BB: 63, AG: 56, INT: 44, QU: 75
LB4 - #50 MLB G Bears (Mike Singletary) RS: 75, RP: 56, MS: 56, HP: 69, BB: 50, AG: 63, INT: 31, QU: 81
LB5 - #58 MLB G Steelers (Jack Lambert) RS: 63, RP: 56, MS: 50, HP: 75, BB: 44, AG: 56, INT: 19, QU: 69

CB1 - #81 CB G Cardinals (Dick "Night Train" Lane) RS: 50, RP: 56, MS: 75, HP: 44, BB: 69, AG: 88, INT: 88, QU: 75
CB2 - #47 CB G Steelers (Mel Blount) RS: 63, RP: 56, MS: 69, HP: 38, BB: 63, AG: 81, INT: 81, QU: 81
CB3 - #40 CB G Patriots (Mike Haynes) RS: 63, RP: 50, MS: 69, HP: 13, BB: 50, AG: 75, INT: 69, QU: 81
CB4 - #37 CB G Raiders (Lester Hayes) RS: 56, RP: 38, MS: 81, HP: 13, BB: 50, AG: 69, INT: 75, QU: 56

S1 - #8 S G Cardinals (Larry Wilson) RS: 56, RP: 44, MS: 63, HP: 69, BB: 56, AG: 63, INT: 81, QU: 69
S2 - #27 S G Redskins (Ken Houston) RS: 56, RP: 38, MS: 56, HP: 75, BB: 44, AG: 56, INT: 69, QU: 75
S3 - #45 S G Seahawks (Kenny Easley) RS: 50, RP: 50, MS: 56, HP: 81, BB: 38, AG: 63, INT: 63, QU: 63

K - #3 K G Chiefs (Jan Stenerud) RS: 81, RP: 56, MS: 81, HP: 31, BB: 13, AG: 38, KP: 81, AB: 94, KA: 75
P - #8 P G Raiders (Ray Guy) RS: 81, RP: 25, MS: 44, HP: 31, BB: 13, AG: 38, KP: 88, AB: 69

[shadowhooch]

And if you need reference for EVERY player at every position, see google doc below.  Tabs for each position....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DNbX6MzL7Vlvsap_SkD-rDKefiWMHWJPPC9ZTOd6OlY/edit#gid=1447589206

[superhartman]

Thanks SO much. You all rock!

[ststeven11]

DE 0 G Colts is probably Gino Marchetti, #89 (or 76). Art Donovan never played in the modern (Super Bowl) era, all the others did. It is, after all the name of the game. Marchetti barely qualifies as he played his last season during the first season of the SB era ('66). Art Donovan retired after the '61 season.

[superhartman]

Thank you!

[Knobbe]

On 4/22/2020 at 11:57 AM, ststeven11 said:

DE 0 G Colts is probably Gino Marchetti, #89 (or 76). Art Donovan never played in the modern (Super Bowl) era, all the others did. It is, after all the name of the game. Marchetti barely qualifies as he played his last season during the first season of the SB era ('66). Art Donovan retired after the '61 season.

 

It's Art Donovan.

 

What you need to realize is that this game was put together by a Japanese company that was sourcing stuff in the 90s.  There has been a guy or two on here that was in contact with Tecmo because they wanted to bounce stuff off of an American football fan. In the 90s Art Donovan was famous well beyond football, appearing in commercials, Letterman, etc. That's the reason a guy before the Super Bowl era is on this game.  Also note that DIck "NightTrain" Lane is in the game. Lane played his last game in 1965.

[superhartman]

Thanks!

[ststeven11]

On 4/23/2020 at 6:41 PM, Knobbe said:

 

It's Art Donovan.

 

What you need to realize is that this game was put together by a Japanese company that was sourcing stuff in the 90s.  There has been a guy or two on here that was in contact with Tecmo because they wanted to bounce stuff off of an American football fan. In the 90s Art Donovan was famous well beyond football, appearing in commercials, Letterman, etc. That's the reason a guy before the Super Bowl era is on this game.  Also note that DIck "NightTrain" Lane is in the game. Lane played his last game in 1965.

Ha! You're absolutely right. The "Larcenous Lion" did retire in '65. I didn't catch that one. Art Donovan it is.

 

Thanks for the info!

[clay d]

did you unlock all of these characters after that last superbowl win, #3?

[clay d]

i have not unlocked any yet.  i am almost complete on my 3rd superbowl

[xr0b666x]

I am playing with a Sega Genesis system. I ran through 3 seasons in a row with the same team winning the Super Bowl but it didn't unlock the Historic Players. 

 

I have seen players refer to siming the games/season, but if you do it with every team on skp apparently it doesn't work. I don't want to play out 3 seasons to unlock this. What am I missing here?

[Miles Prower]

On 7/10/2020 at 9:45 AM, xr0b666x said:

I am playing with a Sega Genesis system. I ran through 3 seasons in a row with the same team winning the Super Bowl but it didn't unlock the Historic Players. 

 

I have seen players refer to siming the games/season, but if you do it with every team on skp apparently it doesn't work. I don't want to play out 3 seasons to unlock this. What am I missing here?

Site is back online so I can finally answer this, I'm not sure if the Genesis version has the Historic Players, but if it does, you have to win 3 super bowls playing as the same team.  A cheap way I usually use to do it on SNES is save before every season, sim through the regular season and the playoffs, and play the super bowl with whatever team you want to go with (Usually 49ers or Cowboys), the season doesn't matter, all the game cares is that you won a super bowl controlling that team.  Repeat until you have 3 SB wins with the same team and they'll be unlocked.

[Knobbe]

15 hours ago, Miles Prower said:

Site is back online so I can finally answer this, I'm not sure if the Genesis version has the Historic Players, but if it does, you have to win 3 super bowls playing as the same team.  A cheap way I usually use to do it on SNES is save before every season, sim through the regular season and the playoffs, and play the super bowl with whatever team you want to go with (Usually 49ers or Cowboys), the season doesn't matter, all the game cares is that you won a super bowl controlling that team.  Repeat until you have 3 SB wins with the same team and they'll be unlocked.

 

I found you don't even need to control the team.

[kefkaroth]

On 1/4/2020 at 5:32 PM, Miles Prower said:

Hi, I booted up TSB3M and these are all the historic player ratings.  Guide: RS = Run Speed, RP = Run Power, MS = MS, HP = Hit Power, BB = Body Balance, AG = Agility, PS = Pass Speed, PC = Pass Control, PA = Pass Accuracy, AR = Avoid Rush, CL = Coolness, BC = Ball Control, RC = Receptions, INT = Interceptions, QU = Quickness, KP = Kick Power, AB = Avoid Kick Block, KA = Kick Accuracy.

QB1 - #16 QB G Niners (Joe Montana) RS: 69, RP: 25, MS: 19, HP: 13, BB: 19, AG: 38, PS: 56, PC: 81, PA: 81, AR: 81, CL: 88
QB2 - #12 QB G Jets (Joe Namath) RS: 69, RP: 25, MS: 13, HP: 13, BB: 19, AG: 44, PS: 75, PC: 69, PA: 81, AR: 75, CL: 81

RB1 - #34 RB G Bears (Walter Payton) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 75, HP: 31, BB: 75, AG: 81, BC: 69, RC: 38
RB2 - #32 RB G Browns (Jim Brown) RS: 69, RP: 63, MS: 63, HP: 69, BB: 38, AG: 56, BC: 50, RC: 19
RB3 - #40 RB G Bears (Gale Sayers) RS: 69, RP: 69, MS: 63, HP: 31, BB: 88 AG: 88, BC: 69, RC: 31
RB4 - #34 RB G Raiders (Bo Jackson) RS: 69, RP: 50, MS: 75, HP: 38, BB: 63, AG: 75, BC: 69, RC: 19

WR1 - #88 WR G Steelers (Lynn Swann) RS: 69, RP: 56, MS: 56, HP: 13, BB: 75, AG: 81, BC: 69, RC: 81
WR2 - #19 WR G Chargers (Lance Alworth) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 63, HP: 13, BB: 69, AG: 69, BC: 69, RC: 75
WR3 - #80 WR G Seahawks (Steve Largent) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 31, HP: 13, BB: 31, AG: 38, BC: 75, RC: 81
WR4 - #81 WR G Redskins (Art Monk) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 44, HP: 13, BB: 38, AG: 50, BC: 69, RC: 75

TE1 - #0 (89) TE G Bears (Mike Ditka) RS: 69, RP: 25, MS: 50, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 19, BC: 69, RC: 50
TE2 - #87 TE G Raiders (Dave Casper) RS: 69, RP: 63, MS: 44, HP: 56, BB: 38, AG: 50, BC: 69, RC: 75

C - #52 C G Steelers (Mike Webster) RS: 69, RP: 56, MS: 44, HP: 81, BB: 44, AG: 56
G1 - #73 G G Patriots (John Hannah) RS: 69, RP: 44, MS: 50, HP: 81, BB: 50, AG: 38
G2 - #63 G G Raiders (Gene Upshaw) RS: 69, RP: 56, MS: 56, HP: 81, BB: 31, AG: 63
T1 - #78 T G Raiders (Art Shell) RS: 69, RP: 38, MS: 31, HP: 88, BB: 25, AG: 25
T2 - #78 T G Bengals (Anthony Muñoz) RS: 69, RP: 31, MS: 44, HP: 94, BB: 25, AG: 38

DL1 - #75 DE G Rams (David Jones) RS: 50, RP: 50, MS: 69, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 69, INT: 6, QU: 75
DL2 - #75 DT G Steelers ("Mean" Joe Greene) RS: 44, RP: 56, MS: 31, HP: 88, BB: 13, AG: 38, INT: 6, QU: 56
DL3 - #74 DT G Rams (Merlin Olsen) RS: 44, RP: 63, MS: 38, HP: 81, BB: 13, AG: 44, INT: 6, QU: 69
DL4 - #0 (70) DE G Colts (Art Donovan) RS: 56, RP: 44, MS: 69, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 63, INT: 6, QU: 81
DL5 - #54 DT G Cowboys (Randy White) RS: 44, RP: 63, MS: 38, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 56, INT: 6, QU: 69
DL6 - #75 DE G Raiders (Howie Long) RS: 50, RP: 44, MS: 63, HP: 75, BB: 13, AG: 50, INT: 6, QU: 69

LB1 - #56 OLB G Giants (Lawrence Taylor) RS: 63, RP: 44, MS: 75, HP: 69, BB: 56, AG: 69, INT: 31, QU: 88
LB2 - #51 MLB G Bears (Dick Butkus) RS: 56, RP: 69, MS: 56, HP: 75, BB: 50, AG: 63, INT: 31, QU: 81
LB3 - #59 OLB G Steelers (Jack Ham) RS: 56, RP: 50, MS: 63, HP: 69, BB: 63, AG: 56, INT: 44, QU: 75
LB4 - #50 MLB G Bears (Mike Singletary) RS: 75, RP: 56, MS: 56, HP: 69, BB: 50, AG: 63, INT: 31, QU: 81
LB5 - #58 MLB G Steelers (Jack Lambert) RS: 63, RP: 56, MS: 50, HP: 75, BB: 44, AG: 56, INT: 19, QU: 69

CB1 - #81 CB G Cardinals (Dick "Night Train" Lane) RS: 50, RP: 56, MS: 75, HP: 44, BB: 69, AG: 88, INT: 88, QU: 75
CB2 - #47 CB G Steelers (Mel Blount) RS: 63, RP: 56, MS: 69, HP: 38, BB: 63, AG: 81, INT: 81, QU: 81
CB3 - #40 CB G Patriots (Mike Haynes) RS: 63, RP: 50, MS: 69, HP: 13, BB: 50, AG: 75, INT: 69, QU: 81
CB4 - #37 CB G Raiders (Lester Hayes) RS: 56, RP: 38, MS: 81, HP: 13, BB: 50, AG: 69, INT: 75, QU: 56

S1 - #8 S G Cardinals (Larry Wilson) RS: 56, RP: 44, MS: 63, HP: 69, BB: 56, AG: 63, INT: 81, QU: 69
S2 - #27 S G Redskins (Ken Houston) RS: 56, RP: 38, MS: 56, HP: 75, BB: 44, AG: 56, INT: 69, QU: 75
S3 - #45 S G Seahawks (Kenny Easley) RS: 50, RP: 50, MS: 56, HP: 81, BB: 38, AG: 63, INT: 63, QU: 63

K - #3 K G Chiefs (Jan Stenerud) RS: 81, RP: 56, MS: 81, HP: 31, BB: 13, AG: 38, KP: 81, AB: 94, KA: 75
P - #8 P G Raiders (Ray Guy) RS: 81, RP: 25, MS: 44, HP: 31, BB: 13, AG: 38, KP: 88, AB: 69

 

I see that this is from the snes version. As both 16 bit games have slight differences in their stats. For an example as Dave Casper has a 75 in receptions on the snes and a 69 on the genesis version. Randy White has 38 ms on the snes and a 50 ms in the genesis version. In these situations as I want to make my 1995 nes rom version I would combined the highest stat between both games going in much like my 1993 rom with the 16 bit tsb and tsb 2 1993 season.

Edited April 25, 2021 by kefkaroth

[kefkaroth]

On 7/10/2020 at 10:45 AM, xr0b666x said:

I am playing with a Sega Genesis system. I ran through 3 seasons in a row with the same team winning the Super Bowl but it didn't unlock the Historic Players. 

 

I have seen players refer to siming the games/season, but if you do it with every team on skp apparently it doesn't work. I don't want to play out 3 seasons to unlock this. What am I missing here?

 

the genesis version u dont have to play with a team just to win 3 straight super bowls to unlock the greats. the likely hood is the a.i. mustve swapped the all timers when u started your season over. as the genesis version the a.i will swoop up the greats quickly. snes version there is a cheat code to get 999 fa points to acquire any free agent without limit. now if only the genesis version can also get that and the snes version could finally have a cheat code to get any trade without fail. both versions would be perfectly editable.

Edited June 7, 2022 by kefkaroth

[Blacklace]

I completed 3 seasons with Buffalo via the regular season schedule. I played every game, with 3 minute quarters, and won the super bowl each season. I selected the regular season schedule to begin the next season.

After I completed the third season I selected official trade mode. The hall of fame players were not in the free agency list.

 

Do I have to reset the schedule instead of selecting the regular season schedule?

[TecSpectre]

On 11/3/2024 at 9:58 PM, Blacklace said:

I completed 3 seasons with Buffalo via the regular season schedule. I played every game, with 3 minute quarters, and won the super bowl each season. I selected the regular season schedule to begin the next season.

After I completed the third season I selected official trade mode. The hall of fame players were not in the free agency list.

 

Do I have to reset the schedule instead of selecting the regular season schedule?

 

You need to win 3 super bowls while playing in trade mode. After you win a Superbowl in trade mode, it immediately rolls over to another season with a new schedule, updated based on the previous seasons standings.

 

If you win three straight seasons super bowls with the same team, it unlocks the greats.

 

You don't even need to play the regular seasons and it doesn't matter which team you use.

 

Aside from editing the .srm files, the easiest way is to just aim 1 season to the super bowl, pick a team from those two and play the game.

 

Then sim through week 10 of the next season and stop using auto skip and make sure your team is gonna make the playoffs, which you can do by sinking a game and resetting as needed.

 

Get the team to the super bowl and play as them. Repeat this one more time and you'll unlock the greats with only 3 games played

 

 

On 3 min quarters you can do this in about 2 hours real time.