BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 Face=0x4f is used for 7 players, but I always think of it as the Howie Long face since he's one of my favorite players. Photos are of him, Trace Armstrong, and Bill Romanowski. All three of them are with my Raiders in these photos. I don't remember Romanowski ever looking that badass when he was on the 49ers. I'm just saying. HOU. WR3 doug LLOYD Face=0x4f #35 38 69 38 25 81 25 [3 2 4 0 ] RAI. LE howie LONG Face=0x4f #75 38 50 56 69 31 69 [38 1 ] S.D. NT les MILLER Face=0x4f #69 25 38 44 56 19 44 [7 0 ] PHX. RB3 ron WOLFLEY Face=0x4f #24 38 69 38 38 50 25 [3 1 3 0 ] CHI. LE trace ARMSTRONG Face=0x4f #93 31 44 50 63 19 69 [84 2 ] G.B. LILB brian NOBLE Face=0x4f #91 25 31 31 31 19 31 [9 2 ] S.F. ROLB bill ROMANOWSKI Face=0x4f #53 31 44 50 50 19 63 [7 1 ] Interestingly, I'm (still) working on a 2002 rom, and I forgot Armstrong was on the original with the Bears. I used Face=0x1e for him: kamphuna8 and Nelson79 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 I always thought it was funny that Bo Jackson was essentially the face of the game, and they didn't even give him his own face. Did they think Montana was going to carry the game for 25 years? Noobs want to be Bo. Photos are Bo, and lookalikes Joe Kelly (in his lone season as a Raider in 1993, everyone becomes a Raider when they get older) and Floyd Turner. Below that is that Tecmo Bo commercial with Brian Bosworth. Bosworth was not actually in Tecmo Super Bowl, but he was in Tecmo Bowl. That's a modified rom in the commercial ? BUF. WR4 al EDWARDS Face=0x9a #85 25 69 19 13 50 44 [1 4 7 2 ] JETS ROLB joe KELLY Face=0x9a #58 25 31 31 44 19 31 [8 3 ] HOU. WR4 tony JONES Face=0x9a #82 25 69 19 13 81 50 [1 6 12 0 ] RAI. RB1 bo JACKSON Face=0x9a #34 38 69 75 31 81 19 [12 1 9 0 ] G.B. TE2 jackie HARRIS Face=0x9a #80 25 69 25 44 50 31 [1 2 8 1 ] N.O. WR4 floyd TURNER Face=0x9a #88 31 69 31 13 50 44 [1 4 10 4 ] kamphuna8 and Nelson79 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 The Bald Guys Seeing Bald Bo reminded me of these faces again. There are a number of Tecmo faces that appear to have very short hair or are balding, but only three faces are completely bald/shaved without a pixel of hair. Photos are Mark Murphy, Greg Townsend, Ottis Anderson, and Ronnie Harmon. Anderson started shaving his head when he joined the Giants, but I couldn't find a photo of him completely bald from his playing days, so this one is from 1997. Harmon has stubble here, too, but fuck it, close enough: G.B. SS mark MURPHY Face=0x37 #37 25 31 44 44 50 38 [9 71 ] MIA. RG harry GALBREATH Face=0x93 #62 25 69 38 63 PIT. LE keith WILLIS Face=0x93 #93 25 38 44 44 19 56 [51 7 ] RAI. RE greg TOWNSEND Face=0x93 #93 38 50 56 63 31 69 [71 20 ] S.D. RCB sam SEALE Face=0x93 #30 38 44 56 38 50 44 [0 35 ] GIA. RB1 ottis ANDERSON Face=0x93 #24 56 69 50 88 75 31 [7 3 7 4 ] PIT. RE donald EVANS Face=0xbc #66 25 38 44 50 19 56 [33 2 ] DEN. RB4 melvin BRATTON Face=0xbc #32 44 69 25 44 50 38 [3 4 8 2 ] S.D. RB4 ronnie HARMON Face=0xbc #33 38 69 31 25 50 50 [4 4 4 8 ] PHX. RG lance SMITH Face=0xbc #61 25 69 31 38 kamphuna8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) Okay, buckle up, this is a weird one. I was looking at the faces with short hair when I was doing the Bald Guys post, and of course I came across these three faces. I know this is probably common knowledge at this point, but I had completely forgotten that they also got Johnny Johnson's race wrong. But then it gets interesting. First, here's the faces and photos of Johnson and Andre Rison: Face=0x3c Face=0x3d Face=0xd3 JETS RG dave CADIGAN Face=0x3d #66 25 69 31 50 PHX. RB1 johnny JOHNSON Face=0x3d #39 38 69 50 38 50 38 [7 3 6 2 ] ATL. WR2 andre RISON Face=0xd3 #80 44 69 63 13 50 75 [1 9 9 12 ] Now, Face 3C is not used for any player, but it is identical to Face 3D. I feel it's also worth noting that it would be easy to mistype D3 as 3D, so maybe Face 3D was only intended for Dave Cadigan. Except that's also a mistake, because Dave Cadigan looks nothing like that face: but he does look a lot like this face: which happens to be Face 1D, making 3D a potential typo again. This means that both Face 3C and 3D do not represent any real players on the original rom. (Nobody tell Tailback King about any of this, he's full of enough conspiracies) Edited June 9, 2019 by BO FB Offtackle Left kamphuna8 and Nelson79 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Mike Singletary! Man, look at those eyes, he's comin for ya! PIT. LT john JACKSON Face=0xa6 #65 25 69 25 50 RAI. RB4 greg BELL Face=0xa6 #28 44 69 31 38 50 19 [4 1 7 0 ] CHI. LILB mike SINGLETARY Face=0xa6 #50 38 50 56 75 19 81 [7 7 ] RAMS LT irv PANKEY Face=0xa6 #75 25 69 25 63 Nelson79 and kamphuna8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Back in the early days of Tecmo, both before and after this forum was created, before many people knew much of anything, there was something called the NT Dive. It is universally frowned upon today, often being deemed an illegal move in leagues and tourneys, to the point that you feel dirty doing it even when you're playing by yourself. But when you first discovered it, back around 1992, you thought it was a really clever way to stop a cracked out computer. When you played as the Lions so you could run circles around the opposition with Barry Sanders, there weren't many options on defense. You had Michael Cofer and that's about it. But thanks to the NT Dive, Jerry Ball's 44rp (second in the game only to Bob Nelson's 69rp for NTs) and 69hp made him a Tecmo Legend in my book, because I had no idea who he was in real life. He was a 3-time Pro Bowler, but there was no way I was going to be aware of a NT from Detroit, although of course he also ended up as a Raider when he got older: CLE. RT tony JONES Face=0xa7 #66 25 69 25 50 SEA. TE2 travis MCNEAL Face=0xa7 #86 25 69 25 44 50 31 [1 3 9 0 ] PHX. RE rod SADDLER Face=0xa7 #72 25 31 38 50 19 50 [25 1 ] DET. NT jerry BALL Face=0xa7 #93 31 44 44 69 19 69 [20 1 ] ATL. C jamie DUKES Face=0xa7 #64 25 69 19 50 Edited June 14, 2019 by BO FB Offtackle Left Nelson79 and kamphuna8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) The Headbands I can't find photos of any of these players wearing headbands. You know who is in a lot of photos wearing headbands? Jim McMahon. You know who has a Tecmo face without a headband? Jim McMahon. Photos are Hoss, Landeta, and Bostic. The Tecmo faces are good likenesses, just not sure why they have headbands: CIN. RE jason BUCK Face=0x19 #99 25 31 38 50 19 25 [7 3 ] GIA. QB2 jeff HOSTETLER Face=0x19 #15 25 69 25 13 38 31 38 19 [5 4 0 ] GIA. P sean LANDETA Face=0x1c #5 25 56 44 31 81 81 [12 ] WAS. C jeff BOSTIC Face=0x1c #53 25 69 38 69 T.B. LT paul GRUBER Face=0x1c #74 25 69 25 50 N.O. C joel HILGENBERG Face=0x1c #61 25 69 44 50 S.F. LILB matt MILLEN Face=0x1c #54 25 38 50 63 31 63 [3 7 ] Just for fun, here's a photo of McMahon in all his headband glory. I'm thinking about combining the bottom half of his Tecmo face with the top half of Hoss, but that would be too much like work. Edited June 12, 2019 by BO FB Offtackle Left segathonsov, kamphuna8 and Nelson79 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 I think of this as the Ronnie Lott face, so I was mildly surprised to rediscover that it was used for 7 other players, including Freeman McNeil and Rodney Peete (photos below next to Lott). Looking at photos of these guys now, I think this was designed as Peete's face. They seem to have placed priority on QBs in general, and this face looks the most like him. IND. WR1 bill BROOKS Face=0xab #80 38 69 38 13 50 69 [1 5 5 10 ] JETS RB2 freeman MCNEIL Face=0xab #24 38 69 38 19 50 25 [4 2 6 2 ] CIN. RB4 s. JENNINGS Face=0xab #36 38 69 38 25 50 25 [4 2 6 0 ] DEN. SS dennis SMITH Face=0xab #49 38 44 56 50 44 63 [7 38 ] DET. QB1 rodney PEETE Face=0xab #9 25 69 31 13 38 44 31 25 [6 3 2 ] MIN. ROLB m. MERRIWEATHER Face=0xab #57 31 44 50 56 44 69 [20 12 ] N.O. RCB toi COOK Face=0xab #41 25 31 38 38 44 38 [5 76 ] S.F. FS ronnie LOTT Face=0xab #42 44 56 69 69 50 75 [1 51 ] Nelson79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperFan Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 i know the Ronnie Lott Raiders card is for face reference, but i think its interesting that he briefly wore the red and yellow KC jersey, like so: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 Face=0x2d is not used: Face=0x06 is Dan Marino: Face=0x08 is Anthony Dilweg: I'm a little confused. MIA. QB1 dan MARINO Face=0x06 #13 25 69 6 13 81 69 63 69 [1 10 3 ] G.B. QB2 anthony DILWEG Face=0x08 #8 25 69 13 13 44 38 31 38 [2 2 2 ] Nelson79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, TecmoSuperFan said: i know the Ronnie Lott Raiders card is for face reference, but i think its interesting that he briefly wore the red and yellow KC jersey, like so: It's surprisingly difficult to find good head shots of some of these players. Everybody's always wearing helmets. I didn't know he signed with the Chiefs at the end of his career. Too bad he was hurt in the preseason and never played a game for them. I thought that pic was the 49ers again. The card I shared is from his first year as a Raider in 1991, but he was still with the 49ers in the pic. Here's a couple of shots of him looking more like a Raider: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 I didn't want to use this in the post about Marino because it doesn't really look like his Tecmo face, but this pic of him and Bernie Kosar from 1984 makes me laugh: TecmoSuperFan and Nelson79 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) IND. LG randy DIXON Face=0x95 #69 25 69 25 50 SEA. LG edwin BAILEY Face=0x95 #65 25 69 38 44 GIA. LOLB carl BANKS Face=0x95 #58 38 44 50 63 19 56 [12 2 ] PHX. RT tootie ROBBINS Face=0x95 #63 25 69 25 56 N.O. LCB robert MASSEY Face=0x95 #40 31 38 50 44 56 50 [2 12 ] MIA. ROLB hugh GREEN Face=0xb2 #55 25 31 38 44 25 50 [16 5 ] DEN. RB3 sammy WINDER Face=0xb2 #23 44 69 25 31 50 25 [4 2 7 1 ] K.C. RCB kevin ROSS Face=0xb2 #31 31 38 50 44 56 44 [0 102 ] GIA. RB4 rodney HAMPTON Face=0xb2 #27 38 69 31 38 63 38 [5 4 7 6 ] ATL. RT chris HINTON Face=0xb2 #71 25 69 31 69 ATL. LG houston HOOVER Face=0xb2 #69 25 69 19 44 RAMS RILB fred STRICKLAND Face=0xb2 #53 25 31 38 38 19 25 [14 4 ] WAS. RT ed SIMMONS Face=0xb5 #76 25 69 25 63 Why did Ed Simmons need his own face? Good answer, Ed. Here's Carl Banks and Rodney Hampton: Edited June 15, 2019 by BO FB Offtackle Left Bodom and Nelson79 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) Big Men with Beards The photos are three offensive linemen of the 49ers, a big part of their success, and some scrub LB from Houston, who never got past any of these 49ers: BUF. LE leon SEALS Face=0xac #96 25 31 38 44 31 50 [25 18 ] ATL. NT tory EPPS Face=0xac #97 25 31 38 56 19 44 [33 1 ] N.O. NT jim WILKS Face=0xac #94 31 44 50 56 19 69 [33 1 ] S.F. LG guy MCINTYRE Face=0xac #62 25 69 31 50 IND. TE2 orson MOBLEY Face=0xae #89 25 69 19 50 50 31 [1 1 4 2 ] HOU. NT doug SMITH Face=0xae #99 25 69 38 63 WAS. RB4 kelvin BRYANT Face=0xae #24 38 69 44 19 81 38 [3 4 8 2 ] S.F. LT bubba PARIS Face=0xae #77 25 69 19 69 IND. C ray DONALDSON Face=0xaf #53 25 69 25 50 N.E. RG damian JOHNSON Face=0xaf #68 25 69 25 44 DEN. RT ken LANIER Face=0xaf #76 25 69 25 50 GIA. LG william ROBERTS Face=0xaf #66 25 69 31 56 DET. C kevin GLOVER Face=0xaf #53 25 69 31 44 T.B. RG ian BECKLES Face=0xaf #62 25 69 25 44 S.F. RT steve WALLACE Face=0xaf #74 25 69 31 63 HOU. LILB john GRIMSLEY Face=0x35 #59 25 31 38 31 19 38 [5 1 ] Edited June 16, 2019 by BO FB Offtackle Left Nelson79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 Natty Dread DET. RCB leroy IRVIN Face=0xbe #47 25 31 25 25 38 50 [3 25 ] S.F. TE2 jamie WILLIAMS Face=0xbe #81 25 69 19 38 50 31 [1 4 6 0 ] These guys must have had dreads for a very short time, as I could find scant photographic evidence of it. I'm putting Jamie Williams first, as it's a little clearer. In the photo you can clearly see long hair coming out the back of his helmet. In the video interview below that, you can see his hair in the photo on the wall behind him. All I could find of Leroy Irvin was a football card from 1989. If you look closely (zoom in) you can see his long hair coming out on the right side: Nelson79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 Face=0xba is similar to several other faces, but there are a couple of details that make it a little unique. It looks like slight tweaks were made to look like a specific player. It's one of the few faces with that receding hairline, and it has a different stache and mouth than similar faces. They really seem to have had an eye for detail on this one. There's only one problem. This face is not used for anyone in the game! Why go through the trouble of making such a unique face, only to not use it? Was it intended for a certain player, and then they decided on a different face? Or a bench player who was going to be in, but then got cut or something? I'm so curious about this face. Nelson79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) The Sneer sneer /snir/ noun 1. a contemptuous or mocking smile, remark, or tone. Yes, that is Jack Trudeau at the Playboy Mansion while he was at the U. of Illinois in 1983. Or 1984. It was New Year's. Check out the story: https://www.thesportsbank.net/illinois-illini/playboy-mansion-party-illini-football/. You're welcome. And that is Paul Skansi in... a denim ad? I have no fucking idea. And Boomer looking like Gary Busey over here: IND. QB2 jack TRUDEAU Face=0x03 #10 25 69 13 13 31 38 31 50 [2 2 2 ] SEA. WR3 paul SKANSI Face=0x03 #82 25 69 25 13 50 44 [1 5 8 2 ] CIN. QB1 boomer ESIASON Face=0x0a #7 25 69 19 13 63 56 69 75 [4 9 2 ] Bonus videos: Jack Trudeau in a hair grafting ad: https://wegrowhairindy.com/gallery/video-gallery/jack-trudeau-qa Boomer making fun of Dan Marino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu8q3363qTk You know, there are a lot of downright hysterical errors in this video game, but there are moments when I think the programmers were mystical prophets who existed out of time. What a great expression for these three. Edited June 19, 2019 by BO FB Offtackle Left Nelson79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Out of curiosity I counted, because I came to the end of the faces I had prepared, and I made 30 separate "Face of the Day" posts. I could probably come up with something to say about pretty much every Tecmo face, and I may change my mind and post again tomorrow, but that seems like a good place to stop. If there are any faces you like that I missed, or if you just want to keep this going, feel free to add to it. Thanks for following along. Nelson79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 I've been meaning to post about this for awhile, but I just thought of it again watching the Cowboys and Vikings play last night. I love that this Tecmo face is perfect for Ezekiel Elliott: Nelson79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, BO FB Offtackle Left said: I've been meaning to post about this for awhile, but I just thought of it again watching the Cowboys and Vikings play last night. I love that this Tecmo face is perfect for Ezekiel Elliott: On 5/31/2019 at 10:02 AM, BO FB Offtackle Left said: It's pretty much all hair from hair on out. Here's two somewhat different hairstyles represented by the same Tecmo face. Gary Anderson had some kind of Jheri curl fade thing going on: T.B. RB1 gary ANDERSON Face=0xcc #40 38 69 50 25 50 50 [6 6 5 6 ] N.O. LOLB rickey JACKSON Face=0xcc #57 25 31 38 38 19 56 [38 3 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson79 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 6/19/2019 at 9:11 AM, BO FB Offtackle Left said: The Sneer sneer /snir/ noun 1. a contemptuous or mocking smile, remark, or tone. Yes, that is Jack Trudeau at the Playboy Mansion while he was at the U. of Illinois in 1983. Or 1984. It was New Year's. Check out the story: https://www.thesportsbank.net/illinois-illini/playboy-mansion-party-illini-football/. You're welcome. And that is Paul Skansi in... a denim ad? I have no fucking idea. And Boomer looking like Gary Busey over here: IND. QB2 jack TRUDEAU Face=0x03 #10 25 69 13 13 31 38 31 50 [2 2 2 ] SEA. WR3 paul SKANSI Face=0x03 #82 25 69 25 13 50 44 [1 5 8 2 ] CIN. QB1 boomer ESIASON Face=0x0a #7 25 69 19 13 63 56 69 75 [4 9 2 ] Bonus videos: Jack Trudeau in a hair grafting ad: https://wegrowhairindy.com/gallery/video-gallery/jack-trudeau-qa Boomer making fun of Dan Marino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu8q3363qTk You know, there are a lot of downright hysterical errors in this video game, but there are moments when I think the programmers were mystical prophets who existed out of time. What a great expression for these three. Boomer looks a lot like Gary Busey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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