bruddog Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Contrary to prior belief(i think) the playbook definitely has no effect in skp vs skp mode for passing as far as what targets get thrown to. The target chance table is non-linear. This means the values are not evenly spaced apart. Also it means you have to make sure the starters target chances add up to a certain value or you will never get passes to the latter players since the game checks the targets in the following order RB1, RB2, WR1, WR2, TE. EXAMPLE: If you gave RB1 and RB2 target chance ratings of 15 or 0F in hex. WR1, WR2 and the TE would never get targeted. This is because a target rating of 15 corresponds to a value of 128 decmail in the target chance lookup table. So 128+128 = 256 . It is only comparing the target chance to the random value and then subtracting that amount. If the random value was 255. 128 is less than 255. It would increment the target index and subtract 128 from the random value and use this value as the new value to compare to. This means the next time through 128 would equal RB2s target chance and it wouldn't matter what WR1, WR2, and the TE's target chances are. HACK There is a better way to fix this but this is a quick and dirty fix to get general pass distributions per team. It is a cumulative percentage table RB1 10%, TABLE VALUE $19 (256 *10% = 25. Converted to hex = $19) RB2 10% TABLE VALUE $32 (256 *10% = 25. Converted to hex = $19 + previous table value $19 = $3A) WR1 30% TABLE VALUE $7F (256 *30% = 77. Converted to hex = $4d + previous table value $19 = $7F) WR2 30% TABLE VALUE $CC (256 *30% = 77. Converted to hex = $4d + previous table value $19 = $CC) TE 20% TABLE VALUE $FF (no need to calculate it is the remaining percentage always leave at FF) These values are duplicated for the p2 side the way the target roster ids are stored in an array. SIM_TARGET_HACK: SET(0x175a9, 0xA53DDD80BA9013E888D0F7) TARGET_DISTRIBUTION_TABLE: SET(0x19B90, 0x19327FCCFF19327FCCFF) This should work on any rom but double check the 19B90 location in case there is a hack there. It should be FF's SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 So right now I try to make sure the 4th sim value for the RB1, RB2, WR1, WR2 and TE1 equals to 32. Is that tip not relevant anymore with this edit? Or is this a supplement to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 This hack would make the sim target chance irrelevant. Without the hack, making sure they stay under 32 would work in most cases but not all. The TE would be the one to suffer in the cases it doesnt. SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) So how does this handle players say like Christian McCaffrey, James White or Saquon Barkley who are the best or second best receiving target on their teams? Doesn't this lock all teams to the same percentage distribution? Just trying to wrap my head around what this exactly does and doesn't change. Edited February 9, 2019 by SBlueman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adscl84 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I think it uses the sim target value as a reference and checks that against a random number. If the check fails, it goes onto the next eligible receiver until someone gets the catch. I think this hack makes it more likely that the check fails for rbs before moving onto the wrs, giving the wrs more catches. The same can probably be accomplished by having rbs with lower sim values but i haven't ever messed with this to see if it gives finer control over simmed stats. It doesn't lock teams into the same distribution per se, just the probability. That is, if everyone on the offense had the same sim target value, you could expect them to roughly follow this distribution. If you wanted to have a rb get a ton of catches with this hack, you'd have to bump up their sim target value to be a lot higher. SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I would like to add this to my Hack but can't find that string on my version. Also there was someone who was able to hack it so that when players locked up they would move back and forth, like in Supertecmo II. I would also like to know how to hack it so that pass block is based on Rush Power. I would also like to add 4-3 defenses to some teams if that is possible. If you could direct me to information that would help it would be very much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knobbe Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 2/9/2019 at 1:08 PM, SBlueman said: So how does this handle players say like Christian McCaffrey, James White or Saquon Barkley who are the best or second best receiving target on their teams? Doesn't this lock all teams to the same percentage distribution? Just trying to wrap my head around what this exactly does and doesn't change. Yes, I'd read this as a general distribution for someone who didn't want to take the time to modify the targets per team. SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Have you looked into just switching the order of read on the sim? Set it to WR1 WR2 TE1 RB2 RB1. Is that order changable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 38 minutes ago, Ryzzynnwa said: Have you looked into just switching the order of read on the sim? Set it to WR1 WR2 TE1 RB2 RB1. Is that order changable? You could although im not sure what that will achieve…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It will allow for better numbers posted by the QB and it will help the numbers of all the players except RB1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 All my sim numbers went up when I put in the hack, but it slowed the game down and caused the sim to freeze sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 If you could tell me where the string was, I can change it. Also has anyone figured out the pass play indicators? The Running play indicators are known but the passing ones I can't find anyone who has figured out what they mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 50 minutes ago, Ryzzynnwa said: It will allow for better numbers posted by the QB and it will help the numbers of all the players except RB1 Why don’t you just change the numbers for each position rather than changing the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 49 minutes ago, Ryzzynnwa said: All my sim numbers went up when I put in the hack, but it slowed the game down and caused the sim to freeze sometimes What rom were you using as a base rom… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 46 minutes ago, Ryzzynnwa said: If you could tell me where the string was, I can change it. Also has anyone figured out the pass play indicators? The Running play indicators are known but the passing ones I can't find anyone who has figured out what they mean What do you mean pass play indicators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 hours ago, bruddog said: What do you mean pass play indicators? There is a string right after the run play indicators for who is running the ball on the play. This sets QB RB1 RB2 WR1 WR2 for the play, so when the sim runs it checks here for the teams playbook and who is assigned as the runner. The string after is the string for the pass plays, the only thing I can think of is that it is set to the read progression for each passing play. RB1 is first read or WR1 is first read, etc... There is clearly something happening I am just wondering if anyone has knowledge of that string. SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 The BYTES after the ones that tell the game which position name to display are the team offensive preference bytes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 No not offensive preference. When you go to your playbook and change a play, every running play states who is the runner for that play. What I want to know is what the passing numbers do? Do they tell you who is first read or do they tell you how many players are eligible on that play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 @Ryzzynnwa Please post a screenshot of the hex location you are talking about….or the address. I don’t know what “passing numbers” you are referring to. The bytes after the run play player indicator bytes have nothing to do with passing. They are team offensive preference bytes. The order of the wr targets is built into the the actual wr routes play design. When the game is going thru the “script” for each player. If there is a pass target command for that player, it reads the next byte to see what target number they are and adds to the total number of targets available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Starts at 0x27506 00 QB 02 RB1 04 RB2 06 WR1 08 WR2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, bruddog said: The order of the wr targets is built into the the actual wr routes play design. When the game is going thru the “script” for each player. If there is a pass target command for that player, it reads the next byte to see what target number they are and adds to the total number of targets available. How do I change the order the computer goes through for each pass play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, Ryzzynnwa said: How do I change the order the computer goes through for each pass play? You don’t…. But seriously you can’t really set each specific pass play to a certain order. Because its not decoupled from the route itself. That would have been nice but they didn’t do it. Many plays share the same route scripts psuedocode for a streak route 1. set to possible target (2nd target) 2 move towards the endzone 7 yards in x direction 3 loop back to instruction 2 This streak route might be used in 6 different pass plays So if you mess with the order of routes for one play you might affect/break passing for plays that use the same routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Then the final thing I would like to change is the push pull hack. Is it possible to set it to 25% you drop, 50% you bounce off, 25% you drop the enaged opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Not the actual running over a player but when the player is locked up with another player and you can bounce off, but also having it so you can be flattened or flatten the opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzzynnwa Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 SET(0x175a9, 0xA53DDD80BA9013E888D0F7) back to this code? the original string 8DB60320839FA005A66FF0 what does this refer to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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