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I decided to do a Dalton Hilliard season to compare against my Johnny Johnson season. Both are 50 MS backs playing on weak teams. They also play two of the toughest schedules. The only attribute differences are Receptions & hitting power. JJ has a 38 in both Hilliard has a 25 in both. Earnest Byner, Mike Rozier & Cleveland Gary have more similar attributes, but they have better offensive firepower around them.

 

The QBs on both teams are quite similar. Rosenbach has an MS of 19 & a PS of 31 and APB of 31. Fourcade has an MS of 13 PS of 44 & APB of 38. The only difference between Tupa & Walsh is APB Walsh is 50 & Tupa is 38.

 

THE WRs are quite similar as well, with New Orleans having the best overall receiver in Eric Martin, but Phoenix having a better overall receiving corps.
New Orleans:

Eric Martin        Rec 69 MS 38 RS 31

Brent Perriman Rec 50 MS 25 RS 25

Floyd Turner     Rec 44 MS 31 RS 31

Lonzell Hill        Rec 44 MS 19 RS 25

 

Phoenix:

Ricky Proehl   Rec 69 MS 19 RS 25

Roy Green      Rec 56 MS 44 RS 38

Ernie Jones    Rec 56 MS 38 RS 31

JT Smith         Rec 50 MS 25 RS 25

 

Tight End is identical except Tice has a Rec of 31 vs Jordan at 25. Both are backups though.

 

The Saints backup RBs are as follows both Mayes & Fenerty as backups with both having MS 44 RS 38 HP 25 & Rec 25. Heyward has MS 25 RS 44 HP 94 Rec 31

For Phoenix Wolfley & Thompson both have MS 38 RS 38 HP 38 Rec 25. Sikahema has MS 38 RS 44 HP 25 Rec 31.

Mayes & Fenerty are 1 level faster than Wolfley & Thompson, but Wolfley & Thompson are 1 level better at blocking. Heyward is a superior blocker to Sikahema, but Sikahema is faster.

The Saints do have a better O-line, but this mainly comes into play on passing plays, as both line seem to hold blocks on running plays equally.

The verdict: Both teams are pretty equal on offense.
As far as special teams, advantage Saints. Having a 44 MS Right Tackle gives them a big advantage on kick returns, combined with Heyward that's huge. Anderson is a superior kicker to Del Greco.

 

Defense:
Defensive Line: The Saints have a better overall defensive line, but Freddie Joe Nunn is more likely to break through the O-line of either teams players. This is due to Right Guard generally being the weakest O-lineman on most teams. Small advantage to the Cardinals

 

Linebackers: The Saints are definitely better at LB than the Cardinals. With Phoenix you only have one useable LB, Ken Harvey. Harvey has the same attributes as Swilling except he has an MS 0f 56 vs Swilling at 50. The rest of the Cardinals LBs are duds. With New Orleans you can choose Johnson as well, as he has the same attributes as Swilling. Sam Mills is even useable in Good or Excellent Condition. Advantage Saints

Defensive Backs: The Cardinals have much better defensive backs. Young & McDonald are one of the better Safety duos in the game. Toi Cook is a liability in the defensive backfield. The Saints also have their two weaker DBs at the top of the field, leaving a weak spot that can be exploited. The INT numbers are as follows:

Cards: 50, 44, 56, 56 Saints: 44, 56, 44, 44 Advantage: Cardinals.

Overall, I don't think you could pick a team that is as equal to the Cardinals as the Saints are and get a 50 MS back.

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Game1: N.O. 56 Seattle 0

14 carries 187yards 5 tds 2 rec 28 yards Heyward returned 2 kickoffs for tds

Game2: N.O. 44 K.C. 19

13 carries 88 yards 2 tds 5 rec 109 yards 2 tds 1 drop Heyward returned 2 kickoffs for tds

Game3: N.O. 42 Rams 0

13 carries 283 yards 5 tds 2 rec 52 yards 1 td

Game4: N.O. 58 Minnesota 7

13 carries 221 yards 3 tds 4 rec 38 yards 1 td 1 fumble 1 drop

Game5: N.O. 21 Atlanta 7

14 carries 194 yards 3 tds 1 rec 47 yards 2 fumble

Game6: N.O. 24 Philadelphia 21

12 carries 98 yards 2 tds 1 rec 10 yards Heyward returned a kickoffs for a td

Game7: N.O. 58 TB 0

11 carries 120 yards 4 tds 3 rec 43 yards Fenerty 4 carries 0 yards 1 td Hilliard injured 1st offensive play 3rd quarter Heyward injured 1st play

Game8: N.O, 21 Chicago 14

Hilliard & Heyward out Fenerty 14 carries 54 yards 1 Td 2 rec 36 yards

Game9: N.O. 46 Rams 7

22 carries 87 yards 4 tds 7 rec 136 yards

Game 10: S.F. 28 N.O. 21

16 carries 130 yards 2 tds 1 rec 9 yards I accidently left Walsh in, and he threw 2 INTs Heyward returned a kickoffs for a td

Game11: N.O. 42 S.D. 0

21 carries 114 yards 3 tds 1 rec 11 yards 1 fumble

Game12: N.O, 44 Atlanta 14

12 carries 135 yards 2 tds 1 rec 23 yards 1 td Heyward returned a kickoffs for a td

Game13: S.F. 17 N.O. 13

15 carries 55 yards 1 td 1 rec 6 yards 1 fumble

Game14: N.O. 25 Dallas 7

17 carries 122 yards 1 td 2 rec 17 yards

Game15: N.O. 29 Raiders 7

17 carries 15 yards 1 td 4 rec 27 yards 1 td Heyward returned a kickoffs for a td

Game16: N.O. 31 Phoenix 0

22 carries 150 yards 3 tds 3 rec 29 yards 1 fumble

 

Season Totals: 232 carries 1999 yards 41 tds 38 rec 585 yards 6 tds 6 fumbles 2 drops

 

Playoff Divisional Round: N.O. 10 Minnesota 7

16 carries 79 yards 1 td 3 rec 22 yards

 

NFC Championship N.O. 33 N.Y. 21

Hilliard was injured in 2nd QTR, put in Fenerty in excellent condition. Fenerty had more Rush yards - no stats

I fumbled 3 time in this game, once on a long Hilliard run, one with Fourcade in the red zone and one on a punt return, which the Giants returned for a TD. The Giants also returned a Kickoff for a TD and had one long breakaway TD run with Meggett. I threw an INT where the DB jumped to catch it. I forced one fumble late in the game on the flea flicker.

Super Bowl N.O. 58 Cincinnati 14 Hilliard back from injury

21 carries 194 yards 4 TDs In this game I forced 3 fumbles on the flea flicker, scoring TDs on all three, but two were at the end of the fourth quarter.

 

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Hilliard vs Johnson:

Johnson: 214 carries 1376 yards 28 tds 26 rec 393 yards 4 tds 10 fumbles (not counting playoffs) & 7 drops.

Hilliard:    232 carries 1999 yards 41 tds 38 rec 585 yards 6 tds 6 fumbles (not counting playoffs) & 2 drops.

 

I played both backs exclusively in the first RB position. Hilliard missed 1 & 1/2 games, Johnson missed about 2 & 1/2 games. The drop off from Hilliard in the missed games was much more significant. Fenerty came in in average condition (44 MS) Wolfley in good condition (44 MS)

Wolfley: 35 carries 249 yards 6 tds Fenerty 18 carries 54 yards 2 tds

 

Through the entire regular season, Hilliard only had 3 games under 100 yards. After week 10, Johnson never made 100 yards again (he wasn't injured in this time frame either).

On 270 touches, Hilliard only fumbled 6 times, Johnson fumbled 10 times on 240 touches. I generally stayed in bounds with both runners, only running out of bounds to stop the clock.

 

As a receiver, Hilliard was far better. He had 38 catches vs only two drops. JJ had 26 catches vs 7 drops. I only counted it as a drop if the receiver was wide open and standing still. Both players had 44 PC QBs passing to them (Fourcade & Rosenbach)

I had a better season with Hilliard, but I will admit, this doesn't prove he's the better player. I think it does prove that players play within their attributes. It shows that any MS 50 back can be ridden to a winning season & a playoff appearance.

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