Can someone please help me??

[Bman524]

Hello,

 

First, amazing this game has such a following.  I only recently "discovered" SNES emulation and I am having a blast.  I expect to get a little flamed here, but I have been trying to edit the original SNES TSB ROM for several hours now to turn off the "juice."  Every time the change I applied to the ROM failed, I would overwrite the edited rom with the original and try again.  The ROM I start with every time works fine with no edits, gameplay is fine, etc, then I paste in the:

 

SET(0x2699a,0x00010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000)

 

 

apply to rom, and it fails.....

 

Basically even though I know it will be crazy easy, I play games for fun, not to pull my hair out because Herschel Walker bowls over Bill Romanowski like he is a child's doll.  I just want to pile up records with Young/Rice in the original version and then Cutler/Forte in the new rosters version.

 

I have read thorough the instructions here, http://tecmobowl.org/topic/11363-juice-helper-spreadsheet/, and here http://tecmobowl.org/topic/11125-editing-knobbes-2k9/, downloaded the TSBTool Supreme and I think followed the instructions correctly, but the game keeps locking up.

 

I have tried multiple times with both the vanilla SNES version and the version I really want to play (here http://tecmobowl.org/topic/55661-snes-tecmo-super-bowl-2013-14/) and every time I try to play a game, whether a regular season or preseason game it shows the team helmets as if the game is launching and then freezes before the coin toss.

 

Is there anyone that would be willing to take the apparent 30 seconds it SHOULD take to delete the juice so that the game stays at week 1 difficulty for the entire season and the playoffs?  Getting very frustrated at this point and would appreciate any help.

 

Thanks in advance.  Also thanks for reading the wall of text.

 

 

[Tecmonster]

First off, I think you only have 14 sets of numbers there.  You should have 18 (at least in the NES version).  Each "set" of numbers = 5 numbers (each double-digit number starting with a zero).

 

Try making the changes directly to the code with a hex editor, like Translhextion (attached).

Translhextion16c.zip

[buck]

so, are you doing the following steps?

 

1. open TSBTOOLSUPREME

2. click on "Load TSB ROM" button (explorer window pops up so you can find the ROM you want to tweak; and click OK)

3. click "View Contents" button

4. enter a new line between the YEAR=1991 and the Bills (anywhere, really! - you can paste it right before the schedule, too

5. paste the chunk in there

 

SET(0x2699a,0x00010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000)

 

6. click "Apply to ROM" button

7. use the explorer window to locate the ROM you want to apply this to (probably the same one you Loaded back in step 2), double-click on it or say OK

Edited December 11, 2013 by buck

[Bman524]

Well thanks for the try dude.  I downloaded the hex editor and loaded the rom, and had absolutely no idea what I was looking for.  I visually searched for 0x2699a and there is no line for that.  Search function turned up nothing as well.

 

Also I don't know why the message topic showed only 14 groups, the line from the spreadsheet had more.

[buck]

Well thanks for the try dude.  I downloaded the hex editor and loaded the rom, and had absolutely no idea what I was looking for.  I visually searched for 0x2699a and there is no line for that.  Search function turned up nothing as well.

 

Also I don't know why the message topic showed only 14 groups, the line from the spreadsheet had more.

0x2699a is a location (address) in the rom.  (maybe you can search for a "location" or "address", I'm not sure of the terminology that program uses)

on the left side of the hexeditor screen are the locations.  these are ROWS.

you will need to scroll down quite a ways until you find the 26990 row.

then, move your cursor to the exact spot of 2699a and paste the huge chunk of 010000.....there.  you won't need the "0x" or any of that crap, just the ones and zeroes of the actual juice code.

Edited December 11, 2013 by buck

[Bman524]

 

so, are you doing the following steps?

 

1. open TSBTOOLSUPREME

2. click on "Load TSB ROM" button (explorer window pops up so you can find the ROM you want to tweak; and click OK)

3. click "View Contents" button

4. enter a new line between the YEAR=1991 and the Bills (anywhere, really! - you can paste it right before the schedule, too

5. paste the chunk in there

 

SET(0x2699a,0x00010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000000100000000010000000001000000)

 

6. click "Apply to ROM" button

7. use the explorer window to locate the ROM you want to apply this to (probably the same one you Loaded back in step 2), double-click on it or say OK

 

Buck I followed your directions step-by step and it didn't work.

 

First, there is no "Bills" entry when I click view contents, it ends at year=

 

Second, when I click apply changes and try to save I get a massive wall of text error box with a lot of "ERROR! Formation 82 for Bills is invalid, Rom is messed up"  And a bunch more of those for other team names.

 

I 

[buck]

what version of TOOL are you using (I personally still use 0.9.1)?  do you have the .NET framework junk installed?  that is a necessity.

 

also, use a clean rom (one that you haven't tried this on yet)

 

Edited December 11, 2013 by buck

[Bman524]

Buck, there is a search function in the hex editor tool, I pasted in all the search terms above and it keeps returning "string not found."  I don't know what I'm doing wrong here, fairly computer savvy-by no means an expert-

 

Also appreciate both of your efforts so far, thanks for the tries.

[Bman524]

what version of TOOL are you using?  do you have the .NET junk installed?

TSBTool is 1.0.0.1 from 09/23/2013. .net crap is installed.

[buck]

ok, just scroll or press "page down" button until you see 0000026990 (not sure how many zeroes will precede, but the last 5 digits will be 26990....then on that same row, click on the first number and then use your arrow keys and go right until cursor is sitting on 2669a.  then paste chunk of 01000...etc

[Bman524]

ok, just scroll or press "page down" button until you see 0000026990 (not sure how many zeroes will precede, but the last 5 digits will be 26990....then on that same row, click on the first number and then use your arrow keys and go right until cursor is sitting on 2669a.  then paste chunk of 01000...etc

There is no 26990, it jumps from 26980 to 26994

[Knobbe]

I expect to get a little flamed here

 

We don't flame guys who put in actual effort to understand things.  We welcome them.

Welcome.

[Bman524]

what version of TOOL are you using (I personally still use 0.9.1)?  do you have the .NET framework junk installed?  that is a necessity.

 

also, use a clean rom (one that you haven't tried this on yet)

 

scoobydoo.png

Also not sure why but my version of the Tool's contents stop after the "Sim kicking ability" and then year= has no number next to it, than all the stuff after that on your image isn't there.  Unfortunately have to go to bed, perhaps by the time I get home from work tomorrow either you or someone will have some idea what is going on here.

 

Again appreciate your efforts.

[Bman524]

We don't flame guys who put in actual effort to understand things.  We welcome them.

Welcome.

I meant I'd probably get flamed for trying to make the game easier instead of harder

[Bman524]

Also just reinstalled the .net junk from microsofts site and tried all this with the 0.9.1 version of the tool to no avail.

[buck]

Bman, I do not know what you're doing wrong.  But...

 

I have attached the original SNES TSB 1 ROM with all season juice weeks set to 00 01 00 00 00 (preseason levels).

 

Tecmo Super Bowl (U) Low Juice.zip

 

If you want to send (or post) me the other SNES rom that you want to modify, I will do the same for it and send it back.

 

[slim_jimmy7]

Is the issues he's having because he has a rom with a header? Forgive me if it was already answered

[Bman524]

Bman, I do not know what you're doing wrong.  But...

 

I have attached the original SNES TSB 1 ROM with all season juice weeks set to 00 01 00 00 00 (preseason levels).

 

Tecmo Super Bowl (U) Low Juice.zip

 

If you want to send (or post) me the other SNES rom that you want to modify, I will do the same for it and send it back.

Thanks so much Buck, I really appreciate it.  Also feel like a moron but can't seem to figure out how to push an actual file in the comments, but I have the link for the download page for the current roster version i'd love to unjuice.

 

http://tecmobowl.org/topic/55661-snes-tecmo-super-bowl-2013-14/

[buck]

Bman, here is the qbvikings 13-14 rom with the all preseason juice levels you want.

 

 

Tecmo Super Bowl 2013-2014 Low Juice.zip

 

[Bman524]

Also Buck, tried your unjuiced version, works like a charm, thank you so much!

[Bman524]

And just saw your last reply, thank you again!

[Tecmonster]

bman, I know you have what you need now but for future reference, in the hex editor, to go to a specific location, select "Offset" then "Jump to" and a box will come up where you would type in x26990 (or whatever location you might need at the time).