Tecmonster Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Does anyone know how to change a team's default offensive formation? I couldn't find this info in the Hacks directory and nothing came up for me when I searched. I realize that TSBToolSupreme has an option available for this but, unless I have an old version, it doesn't work. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pambazos88 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) OF FORMATIONS SETUP Each Team has an Offensive formation depending on the position of their BACKS on the field:3 WR: 1 Rb / 3 Wrs / 1 TE - (Chargers, Redskins, Cardinals)4 WR: 1 Rb / 4 Wrs - (Oilers, Lions, Falcons)PRO: 2 Rbs/ 2 Wrs / 1 TE - (All of the rest) Chargers x21647 (0C)*, Redskins x2164B ,0x31007 (0E)*, Cardinals x2164F, 0x3100B (11)* *Changing to a differtent Team's number at this offset, will make this team have a 3 WR formation ( team 00=BUF, 1B=ATL) Oilers x21654, x30FFB (07)**Lions x21658, x30FFF (14)**Falcons x2165C, x31003 (1B)** *Changing to a differtent Team's number at these offsets, will make this team have a 4 WR formation ( team 00=BUF, 1B=ATL) OR YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE EVERY TEAM by entering the code provided by jstout: At x21642 input: 8AA66EBCD09FAA4C5096 * (this will redirect to TEAMS' FORMATION at x21FE0) At x21FE0 it will be the new FORMATION SETUP for the Teams in BUF-ATL order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te) Here you have to input 28 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) At x30FF8 input: 8AA66EBC709EAAC001F011C002F0134CFE8F * (this will redirect to x31E80, where PLAYERS' POSITION (WR,RB,TE) is assigned for the NEW FORMATION ) At x31E80 it will assign the CORRECT position for each new FORMATION SETUP. BUF-ATL order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te).Here you also have to input 28 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) Edited October 9, 2019 by bruddog was missing the locations for the position abbreviation for the 3WR teams DFM, philleyOphish, buck and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pambazos88 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) I also cant find that post where this information was added. But in the Hacks Directory it is this one http://tecmobowl.org/topic/1709-changing-formations/But it is still about a 28 TEAMS mod Edited June 30, 2013 by pambazos88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecmonster Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 Thanks pambazos. So you're saying these codes only apply to the 28-team rom though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD_AL Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know how to change a team's default offensive formation? I couldn't find this info in the Hacks directory and nothing came up for me when I searched. I realize that TSBToolSupreme has an option available for this but, unless I have an old version, it doesn't work. Thanks. Ok great, thanks to pambazos88 I was able to see what was going on with TSBToolSupreme. When I tested out the Offensive formation feature I must have tried it on a ROM that was already setup with this hack. So.. simple way to get the Offensive formations to work correctly is to add the following 'SET' command in the text area and apply it to ROM: SET(0x21642, 0x8AA66EBCD09FAA4C5096 ) Edited July 20, 2013 by BAD_AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecmonster Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Ok great, thanks to pambazos88 I was able to see what was going on with TSBToolSupreme. When I tested out the Offensive formation feature I must have tried it on a ROM that was already setup with this hack. So.. simple way to get the Offensive formations to work correctly is to add the following 'SET' command in the text area and apply it to ROM: SET(0x21642, 0x8AA66EBCD09FAA4C5096 ) Well for me, that jacked up the OF Starters screen somethin' fierce. It changed it to the DE Starters screen but added a bunch of chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD_AL Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Well for me, that jacked up the OF Starters screen somethin' fierce. It changed it to the DE Starters screen but added a bunch of chaos. Hmm... Seemed to work for me on the original 28 team ROM. Can you send me the rom you're using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecmonster Posted July 21, 2013 Author Share Posted July 21, 2013 Sure, I'm using a 32-team rom, so I'm sure that's the problem. Here it is, though I reverted it back to the original code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD_AL Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sure, I'm using a 32-team rom, so I'm sure that's the problem. Here it is, though I reverted it back to the original code. Where is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecmonster Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Where is it? oh, sorry. it's attached now.RTL 2013-1.nes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD_AL Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 oh, sorry. it's attached now. This ROM is heavily modified. The formation thing just isn't working on it. Don't have a fix for you on this ROM. sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecmonster Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 This ROM is heavily modified. The formation thing just isn't working on it. Don't have a fix for you on this ROM. sorry OK, thanks for looking into it though. I really appreciate it. It's Drummer's rom with edited rosters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 On 2013-06-30 at 8:24 PM, pambazos88 said: OR YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE EVERY TEAM by entering the code provided by jstout: At x21642 input: 8AA66EBCD09FAA4C5096 * (this will redirect to TEAMS' FORMATION at x21FE0) At x21FE0 it will be the new FORMATION SETUP for the Teams in BUF-ATL order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te) Here you have to input 28 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) At x30FF8 input: 8AA66EBC709EAAC001F011C002F0134CFE8F * (this will redirect to x31E80, where PLAYERS' POSITION (WR,RB,TE) is assigned for the NEW FORMATION ) At x31E80 it will assign the CORRECT position for each new FORMATION SETUP. BUF-ATL order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te).Here you also have to input 28 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) I there a similar fix for the 28-team ROM for how a team substitute for injuries? (Now it's like the team is in their default formation setup.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 No there isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO FB Offtackle Left Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) On 6/30/2013 at 2:24 PM, pambazos88 said: OF FORMATIONS SETUP Each Team has an Offensive formation depending on the position of their BACKS on the field:3 WR: 1 Rb / 3 Wrs / 1 TE - (Chargers, Redskins, Cardinals)4 WR: 1 Rb / 4 Wrs - (Oilers, Lions, Falcons)PRO: 2 Rbs/ 2 Wrs / 1 TE - (All of the rest) Chargers x21647 (0C)* Redskins x2164B (0E)*Cardinals x2164F (11)* *Changing to a differtent Team's number at this offset, will make this team have a 3 WR formation ( team 00=BUF, 1B=ATL) Oilers x21654, x30FFB (07)**Lions x21658, x30FFF (14)**Falcons x2165C, x31003 (1B)** *Changing to a differtent Team's number at these offsets, will make this team have a 4 WR formation ( team 00=BUF, 1B=ATL) OR YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE EVERY TEAM by entering the code provided by jstout: At x21642 input: 8AA66EBCD09FAA4C5096 * (this will redirect to TEAMS' FORMATION at x21FE0) At x21FE0 it will be the new FORMATION SETUP for the Teams in BUF-ATL order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te) Here you have to input 28 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) At x30FF8 input: 8AA66EBC709EAAC001F011C002F0134CFE8F * (this will redirect to x31E80, where PLAYERS' POSITION (WR,RB,TE) is assigned for the NEW FORMATION ) At x31E80 it will assign the CORRECT position for each new FORMATION SETUP. BUF-ATL order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te).Here you also have to input 28 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) This is still only for 28-team roms, correct? Does anyone know what the offsets are for a 32-team rom? Edited October 4, 2019 by BO FB Offtackle Left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knobbe Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 10/3/2019 at 7:30 PM, BO FB Offtackle Left said: This is still only for 28-team roms, correct? Does anyone know what the offsets are for a 32-team rom? 32 team fix For the 32 team rom I think the OF formations are baked in and can be edited by tecmo tool or else manually starting at 3f940 At x3f940 it will be the new FORMATION SETUP for the Teams in BUF-ATL-ProBowl-NFC West order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te) Here you have to input 34 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) Per @bruddog the following will re-route the At x30FF8 input: A56EA8B9D09FC901F012C902F014EAEAEAEAEAEAEAEA * (this will redirect to x31FE0, where PLAYERS' POSITION (WR,RB,TE) is assigned for the NEW FORMATION ) SET(0x30FF8, 0xA56EA8B9D09FC901F012C902F014EAEAEAEAEAEAEAEA)At x31FE0 it will assign the CORRECT position for each new FORMATION SETUP. BUF-ATL-ProBowl-NFC West order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te).Here you also have to input 34 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) bruddog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovenmitt Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 9:20 AM, Knobbe said: For the 32 team rom I think the OF formations are baked in and can be edited by tecmo tool or else manually starting at 3f940 At x3f940 it will be the new FORMATION SETUP for the Teams in BUF-ATL-ProBowl-NFC West order. (00=pro, 01=4wr, 02=3wr-1te) Here you have to input 34 values (+ 2 for All-PROs) Anyone trying to make formation edits in 2021 ROMs or beyond, those formations are located at 0x7F940 to 0x7F961. You can edit 0x3F940 but that will only result in frustration and tears, and no changes to the team formations. This also means that using the TSBToolSupreme is of no use for reading or writing the formations (other than that, an AMAZING tool) In case this: BUF-ATL-ProBowl-NFC West order confused you, there are 34 bytes. The order in which they affect the teams is division-by-division: Buf, Mia, NE, NYJ, Cin, Cle, etc. up until NO, Atl, Car. the next two bytes are the Pro Bowl teams, and the last 4 are SF, LA, Sea, Ari. 0x31FE0 to 0x32001 remains the correct bank for matching up the players listed positions with the formation. Knobbe and SBlueman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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