gojiphen malor Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Just a recap : SET(0x23DA4,0x0F) Browns Facemask Bar Outline SET(0x23DA5,0x08) Browns Facemack Bar SET(0x23E24,0x00) Lions Facemask Bar Outline SET(0x23E25,0x10) Lions Facemack Bar SET(0x23E26,0x11) Lions Logo Outline SET(0x23E21,0x11) Lions Inner Stripe SET(0x23E23,0x10) Lions Outer Stripe Edited September 18, 2017 by gojiphen malor SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Yeah, that's where I am stuck too. You change one mask and others change too. Anyone out there know if the change is possible? Edited September 18, 2017 by SBlueman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojiphen malor Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Welcome to add this too if you like it : SET(0x23E09,0x1C) Eagles Helmet Sunspot SET(0x23E0A,0x0C) Eagles Helmet Main Color SET(0x23E0B,0x0C) Eagles Helmet Outline SBlueman and crusadeRGP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusadeRGP Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Does either of these topics help you @SBlueman @gojiphen malor? Edited September 18, 2017 by oilertitanfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojiphen malor Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 56 minutes ago, oilertitanfan said: Does either of these topics help you @SBlueman @gojiphen malor? Yes I think this has me on the right track. Thank you. Still some learning to do lol. SBlueman and crusadeRGP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 12 hours ago, SBlueman said: Yeah, that's where I am stuck too. You change one mask and others change too. Anyone out there know if the change is possible? The mini helmet screen is a bit of a puzzle due to the graphical limitations on the nes. In general on the nes on any one screen you can have: 1. 12 background tile colors, 12 sprite color tiles, 1 screen bg color. 2. You can only use 3 of the 12 colors in a 4 tile x 4 tile area for BG tiles ( one special mapper lets you set the 3 color set for each tile). 3. Sprites can access any of the 12 colors but only 3 of the 12 per tile. So for the mini-helmet screen you really need to plan things out in total and not just edit one by one because there are facemasks drawn using each one of the 3 color sets. SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 This picture shows the screen with only the BG tiles drawn, only the sprite tiles drawn, and the BG color set for each area of the screen gojiphen malor and SBlueman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 There is way fix but it takes a bit of programming to add pointers to special sprite facemask tiles that only those CLE and DET use. Each team would need its own entry The but this requires expanding the current special sprites table and then updating the reference to that table. crusadeRGP and SBlueman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, bruddog said: The mini helmet screen is a bit of a puzzle due to the graphical limitations on the nes. In general on the nes on any one screen you can have: 1. 12 background tile colors, 12 sprite color tiles, 1 screen bg color. 2. You can only use 3 of the 12 colors in a 4 tile x 4 tile area for BG tiles ( one special mapper lets you set the 3 color set for each tile). 3. Sprites can access any of the 12 colors but only 3 of the 12 per tile. So for the mini-helmet screen you really need to plan things out in total and not just edit one by one because there are facemasks drawn using each one of the 3 color sets. 8 hours ago, bruddog said: This picture shows the screen with only the BG tiles drawn, only the sprite tiles drawn, and the BG color set for each area of the screen 7 hours ago, bruddog said: There is way fix but it takes a bit of programming to add pointers to special sprite facemask tiles that only those CLE and DET use. Each team would need its own entry The but this requires expanding the current special sprites table and then updating the reference to that table. Whoa...just a bit over my head. It sounds like the effort required to make this happen is daunting, not to mention if it can even be done. I thought it was something like being able to point the facemask the Raiders are using on the Lions and the Browns just editing the color. Boy was I wrong. So would this be an effort in futility to even attempt? Edited September 19, 2017 by SBlueman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFM Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 55 minutes ago, SBlueman said: So would this be an effort in futility to even attempt? Yes. He just told you it wouldn't work. lol SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, davefmurray said: Yes. He just told you it wouldn't work. lol Kinda figured, was grasping for any hope. Oh well, it's not the end of the world, the big helmets are rcorrect for the Lions, Browns and Rams now. I can't imagine the nightmare it would be if the NFL ever switched to 'alternate' helmets: Edited September 19, 2017 by SBlueman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 22 hours ago, gojiphen malor said: Welcome to add this too if you like it : SET(0x23E09,0x1C) Eagles Helmet Sunspot SET(0x23E0A,0x0C) Eagles Helmet Main Color SET(0x23E0B,0x0C) Eagles Helmet Outline Nice! Here's an updated rom, we have been able to update (4) helmets total - Rams, Browns, Lions and Eagles. Thanks for your help and set codes @gojiphen malor!: base-2017-update.nes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, SBlueman said: Nice! Here's an updated rom, we have been able to update (4) helmets total - Rams, Browns, Lions and Eagles. Thanks for your help and set codes @gojiphen malor!: base-2017-update.nes hey, thanks for tweaking these colors, what hacks are applied to this rom? I would like this version without any extra stuff/hacks that goes beyond the original intent/post of this thread applied....for example, I am not interested in the "no flicker" hack. edit----whoops looks like you have st louis rams! Edited September 20, 2017 by buck SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 You guys might be way over complicating the mini helmets. Detroit already uses the grey color so just remove the special byte that places the black facemask and instead use the standard grey facemask. Cleveland has Black for the dark brown so if you recolor the tiles it should be good. No need for changing pointers and such. I got the following in just minutes. base-2017-update.nes SBlueman, gojiphen malor and buck 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Hmm when i was messing with the Det one I thought it still ended up changing another but I must have been wrong that works to make Det grey. I think Cle was the main problem as to give them a brown facemask you had to create a special byte for them to overlay a brown mask tile because there was no brown as part of the current bg pal being used only orange. Or you'd have to make the helmet and facemask the same color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojiphen malor Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 This work? SET(0x23C32,0x80) Lions Mini Facemask Fix SET(0x23C33,0x00) Lions Mini Facemask Fix SET(0x23BE2,0x81) Browns Mini Facemask Fix SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojiphen malor Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Making the Eagles mini helmet a little darker green SET(0x1A15D,0x0B) (Will change NYJ and GB facemasks slightly too but not very noticeable) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Ok this should fix things. @SBlueman @davefmurray @jstout @SBlueman set(0x227D1, 0xA44420A0F629FCF0524A4AAABC41BCBD42BC8543A6B8B955BC18653E8542B955BC2980F00209FF653FD01DB952BC1865409D0002B953BC9D0102B954BC9D0202A5429D03024C0EA8A9F09D0002E8E8E8E8C8C8C8C8C44390BD86B860) set(0x23BC6, 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ere is the source file which can be built by asm6. min-helms.asm DFM and gojiphen malor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 7:00 PM, buck said: hey, thanks for tweaking these colors, what hacks are applied to this rom? I would like this version without any extra stuff/hacks that goes beyond the original intent/post of this thread applied....for example, I am not interested in the "no flicker" hack. edit----whoops looks like you have st louis rams! Wow, I missed a lot today! First off, here you go, an update with just the graphical updates thanks to @jstout, @gojiphen malor and @bruddog! base-2017-update.nes 10 hours ago, gojiphen malor said: This work? SET(0x23C32,0x80) Lions Mini Facemask Fix SET(0x23C33,0x00) Lions Mini Facemask Fix SET(0x23BE2,0x81) Browns Mini Facemask Fix Not quite. The Browns facemask was part white still. The Lions fix works though! 10 hours ago, gojiphen malor said: Making the Eagles mini helmet a little darker green SET(0x1A15D,0x0B) (Will change NYJ and GB facemasks slightly too but not very noticeable) I added this to the update I posted above. 7 hours ago, bruddog said: Ok this should fix things. @SBlueman @davefmurray @jstout @SBlueman set(0x227D1, 0xA44420A0F629FCF0524A4AAABC41BCBD42BC8543A6B8B955BC18653E8542B955BC2980F00209FF653FD01DB952BC1865409D0002B953BC9D0102B954BC9D0202A5429D03024C0EA8A9F09D0002E8E8E8E8C8C8C8C8C44390BD86B860) set(0x23BC6, 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ere is the source file which can be built by asm6. min-helms.asm I tired applying this patch to the game and the screen went black when I entered the team data main screen. Did anyone else have this happen as well? buck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojiphen malor Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, SBlueman said: Wow, I missed a lot today! First off, here you go, an update with just the graphical updates thanks to @jstout, @gojiphen malor and @bruddog! base-2017-update.nes Not quite. The Browns facemask was part white still. The Lions fix works though! I added this to the update I posted above. I tired applying this patch to the game and the screen went black when I entered the team data main screen. Did anyone else have this happen as well? Same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Sorry I had the second set location wrong. I edited it above. Try again. SBlueman and gojiphen malor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojiphen malor Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Changed L.A. to Los Angeles Thank bruddog. base2017update.nes SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) I updated the base rom with the small face mask fix that @jstout posted. The Browns small face mask is one color in his edit. base-2017-update.nes Edited October 8, 2017 by SBlueman buck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Machine Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) I noticed that the playbooks on the current base (one from download link in the first post) are mixed up. For example the QB bootleg run that’s normally in slot 4 is now in slot 2. Is there a version where the plays are in their original slots? I saw a few posts up with some updates to helmets and names etc, and that version seems to have correct plays in slots. Also is there a list of what hacks are on this rom (in original post link)? (Tapmeter, flicker, PA/PC, etc.)? Edited December 28, 2017 by War Machine SBlueman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, War Machine said: I noticed that the playbooks on the current base (one from download link in the first post) are mixed up. For example the QB bootleg run that’s normally in slot 4 is now in slot 2. Is there a version where the plays are in their original slots? I saw a few posts up with some updates to helmets and names etc, and that version seems to have correct plays in slots. Also is there a list of what hacks are on this rom (in original post link)? (Tapmeter, flicker, PA/PC, etc.)? Try this one out: TBorg-Base-ROM-0817.nes I used the TSB Play Maker editor to copy the original playbook over to the rom uploaded to the site. As far as what hacks are added....the only ones that should be added to this rom are the ones listed in the first post: Quote "TecmoBowl.org Base ROM" This is cx_rom's 32-team v1.05 with only the following changes: 1. NFC West "Offense Preference" Bug (when playing live, heavy pass does heavy rush) x273B4 change to x20 xB6 x9F SET(0x273b4, 0x20b69f) 2. NFC West "SIM" Bugs x27479 to x2747B should be x20 xB6 x9F (this goes to cx_rom's written code for Team 1) x27481 to x27483 should be x20 xB6 x9F (this goes to cx_rom's written code for Team 2) SET(0x27479, 0x20b69f) SET(0x27481, 0x20b69f) x27FCE should be xE0 (this makes it compare team value correctly) SET(0x27fce, 0xe0) 3. Player-2 Condition Fix SET(0x30e55, 0x20809f) SET(0x31f90, 0xa66ee46df00218603860) *regarding offense SIM and SIM calculations, for the TE to be calculated properly with SIM values (changed the byte at x175CB from 04 to 05, see http://tecmobowl.org...ata/#entry90243) 4. Large Helmet Graphics Keithisgood's graphics updates found here: http://tecmobowl.org/topic/53374-new-helmet-logos/ 5. Mini Helmet Graphics Keithisgood's graphics updates found here: http://tecmobowl.org/topic/53631-new-mini-helmets-logos/ (special thanks to Adam5000, & Jstout) 6. NFL Player Association Graphic Keithisgood's graphic updates found in the above link. 7. AFC / NFC Pro Bowl Logo Graphics Keithisgood ditto above. 8. Intro Scrolling Text "NFL Super Pro Football" = "NFL Tecmo Super Bowl" Buck did this. 9. "1991 Roster" = "Team Roster" Text Buck did this. 10. Large Helmet Graphics Keith did this. 11. 3 NFL Logos Keith did this. 12. Options Screen Fix Keith did this. Hopefully that did the trick, enjoy! Edited December 28, 2017 by SBlueman War Machine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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