tecmobo Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Today I had a thought - since ball carriers never seem to fumble while being tackled out of bounds, shouldn't it be possible to stop fumbles from occurring after the ball carrier crosses into the End Zone as well? I posed this question to Jstout, and he first confirmed that fumbling while out of bounds is not possible in the orig rom, then whipped up some code right-quick for how to stop post-touchdown fumbles as well! x28698 ($8688):4C 40 BF JMP CODEEA NOPEA NOPEA NOPx2BF50 ($BF40):A5 73 LDA $7329 20 AND $20D0 0B BNE :+A5 71 LDA $7129 10 AND #$10C9 10 CMP #$10F0 03 BEQ :+4C 8E 86 JMP RETURN4C E8 86 : JMP $86E8 This code is brand new as of today so it still needs some testing in various scenarios, but once we get this nailed down I think we might see this hack become standard in most leagues. No more bothering with making rules for late tackles, losing stats when an owner causes a post-TD fumble, or punishing the repeat offenders. Plus it allows for all of us to get in on the late-hit action, which has always felt like it should be part of tecmo. Not to mention it can be a great stress reliever EDIT: IPS and Hacked Rom attached No Post TD Fumbles.rar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primis Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Bah. Tackling after a TD to cause a fumble is one of the great feel-good moments for the defeated! I would feel great loss at the exclusion of it! twister 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim_jimmy7 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Awesome!This may be a dumb question, but does tackling in the end zone (or out of bounds) effect players conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecmobo Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Bah. Tackling after a TD to cause a fumble is one of the great feel-good moments for the defeated! I would feel great loss at the exclusion of it!This is mainly for leagues, almost all of which do not allow late tackling. It is especially useful for the pg leagues.Awesome!This may be a dumb question, but does tackling in the end zone (or out of bounds) effect players conditions?Player conditions can only change at the end of each quarter and are random (not based on stats), so without being 100% sure I'd say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knobbe Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Today I had a thought - since ball carriers never seem to fumble while being tackled out of bounds, shouldn't it be possible to stop fumbles from occurring after the ball carrier crosses into the End Zone as well? I posed this question to Jstout, and he first confirmed that fumbling while out of bounds is not possible in the orig rom, then whipped up some code right-quick for how to stop post-touchdown fumbles as well! x28698 ($8688):4C 40 BF JMP CODEEA NOPEA NOPEA NOPx2BF50 ($BF40):A5 73 LDA $7329 20 AND $20D0 0B BNE :+A5 71 LDA $7129 10 AND #$10C9 10 CMP #$10F0 03 BEQ :+4C 8E 86 JMP RETURN4C E8 86 : JMP $86E8 This code is brand new as of today so it still needs some testing in various scenarios, but once we get this nailed down I think we might see this hack become standard in most leagues. No more bothering with making rules for late tackles, losing stats when an owner causes a post-TD fumble, or punishing the repeat offenders. Plus it allows for all of us to get in on the late-hit action, which has always felt like it should be part of tecmo. Not to mention it can be a great stress reliever If you have one, please upload a modded rom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Fischer Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 This is awesome.This makes wonder: Does Tecmo erase stats after fumbles in general (not just post-TD fumbles)? I think it does. I guess my question is, is Tecmo's treatment of fumbles and stats in line with the NFL's rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 This is awesome.This makes wonder: Does Tecmo erase stats after fumbles in general (not just post-TD fumbles)? I think it does. I guess my question is, is Tecmo's treatment of fumbles and stats in line with the NFL's rules?any fumble erases the stats that occurred before it. INT, Catch, Long Run, TD, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecmobo Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 This is awesome.This makes wonder: Does Tecmo erase stats after fumbles in general (not just post-TD fumbles)? I think it does. I guess my question is, is Tecmo's treatment of fumbles and stats in line with the NFL's rules?any fumble erases the stats that occurred before it. INT, Catch, Long Run, TD, whatever.Correct. Sorry I should have made that more clear. And Bruddog tells me the NFL tracks all yards up to the point of the fumble, meaning TSB is not in line with how the NFL tracks stats on fumbles. It would also be awesome if we could get TSB to track everything up to the point of the fumble (and also if we could track fumbles themselves), but a hack that does that would be considerably more complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgboud2 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I would like to know why when I'm at the sideline I fumble inbounds while my opponent will fumble out of bounds thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinybehiny2477 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I would like to know why when I'm at the sideline I fumble inbounds while my opponent will fumble out of bounds thx The "MAN" sticking it to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecmobo Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 I would like to know why when I'm at the sideline I fumble inbounds while my opponent will fumble out of bounds thx The same reason everyone's drones are better at covering kickoffs than yours are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecmobo Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Bump - Added IPS and hacked rom to first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbbuck Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 This is awesome.This makes wonder: Does Tecmo erase stats after fumbles in general (not just post-TD fumbles)? I think it does. I guess my question is, is Tecmo's treatment of fumbles and stats in line with the NFL's rules?any fumble erases the stats that occurred before it. INT, Catch, Long Run, TD, whatever.I assume this hack only works after TDs, so is there a hack that fixes this so stats are kept after any/all fumbles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macknbyner Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Fumbling after TD is a double-edged sword. I love making Bo Jackson cough it up after sprinting for an 70 yard score. But, I hate when it happens to me. I can see where some folks would want this hack. Good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knobbe Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 This wasn't ever linked in the hacking documentation. This is the go-to fix for end zone fumbles, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeygats Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 can someone edit this so it can be copy and pasted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Comment bruddog Posted April 22, 2016 Featured Comment Share Posted April 22, 2016 Here you go. But you always need to make sure that the space at 0x2BF50 is filled with FF's. Otherwise it means there is some other hack there. SET (0x28698, 0x4C40BFEAEAEA) SET (0x2BF50, 0xA5732920D00BA5712910C910F0034C8E864CE886) Rees157 and joeygats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeygats Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 ty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quince3800 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 There's something different that happens here when the player catches the ball in the endzone. I'm trying to create plays and I noted a WR fumbling immediately after a catch in the endzone a few weeks ago. I just now checked the code. It's the same (I used ctrl+f). It's in a different location (@2bf74), but the jump command is 4c 64 bf, so that shouldn't be a problem. I don't know if the stats were changed because I was testing and it's was a preseason game. Just a note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamphuna8 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Is there a way to hack allowing the fumbles but keeping the stats even after fumbles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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