buck Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Behind the line of scrimmage, I want a COM controlled QB to move around, but also be able to throw a pass using x90 command if the QB is approached by a defender. I don't want to just move him and then start the Throwing process. I want the throwing process to be in effect *while* the com QB is moving around, so that QB will not take a sack. I have been trying to embed the C1+x90 command inside a FC FF E0 DF type of loop, but the DF never relinquishes control. Something like this: FC FF E0 DF C1 14 24 FF 91 E1 F2 "code to give possession" "LOOP BACK" FC But like I said, the DF command takes over and that seems to be the end of it. Any ideas or work arounds you can think of? I'm sure there's something I'm missing or not thinking of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecmonster Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 THAT would be an AWESOME hack. With the "COM find open receiver" hack, this would be the last piece of the puzzle to enable the COM to pass like a human player. One question: sometimes the QB will sprint out of the pocket but then fire a pass right before he crosses the line of scrimmage. Would this short-circuit that behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 well, I'm pretty sure all the default 1991 TSB Play QB "scramble and throw" code is just straight up command to move, then stop, maybe jump to throw, move again, maybe jump to throw, etc. so it's just a preset pseudo random sequence, where there is no real "decision" made, based on what the defense does. what I am talking about in this thread is not a "hack", just ideas for manipulation of the already available code in the play engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Not really no. You'd have to hack the pass command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 would you have to hack the x90 or the xC1 command? what about hacking the xDF command? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecmonster Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 buck, did you ever make any headway on this? What if you manipulated the avoid sack command? Obviously, the com QB's response to a sack danger is to throw the ball or take the sack. What if you added a third option -- throw the ball, take the sack, or DF? Or . . . throw the ball, take the sack, or run a rollout (very similar to the rollout routes in the Rollout R and Rollout L plays) and then, at the end of the route, loop back to the x90 command? I like this idea the best because it's very similar to how a human plays AND the rollout route makes it still possible that a sack can occur even if we ramp up the avoid sack command to FF on all the QB instructions (I think sacks should still be part of the game). Of course, I have no idea how to get into the avoid sack command. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 no man, I gave up and just did what original TSB did - hardcoded some moves based on probabilities (chance) - no real "decision making" for COM. xlpozv has figured this stuff out though, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplozv Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yeah I have this figured out and I'm hoping to release my rom update which has it this by the weekend. I also have just finished another major hack. How would you like to lead your WRs like madden? Throw them open on the move and once they have stopped in place!!! Overthrow them if they get past the DB, throw a comeback route on the fly if DBs are dropping deep, throw left or right too!!! GameplayLoop, Bodom and COA Elway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameplayLoop Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yeah I have this figured out and I'm hoping to release my rom update which has it this by the weekend. I also have just finished another major hack. How would you like to lead your WRs like madden? Throw them open on the move and once they have stopped in place!!! Overthrow them if they get past the DB, throw a comeback route on the fly if DBs are dropping deep, throw left or right too!!! This is insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecmonster Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yeah I have this figured out and I'm hoping to release my rom update which has it this by the weekend. I also have just finished another major hack. How would you like to lead your WRs like madden? Throw them open on the move and once they have stopped in place!!! Overthrow them if they get past the DB, throw a comeback route on the fly if DBs are dropping deep, throw left or right too!!! Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlueman Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Did anything come of this @buck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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