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Madison, WI - 04/08/17 - Tecmo Madison XIII: Return of the Mack

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8 minutes ago, mort1237 said:

Any chance that one day we will just have the top 8 or 16 start in the bracket?

I would find it interesting cause there are no warm up games for elite players and it will give newer players a better shot at the bracket.

 

 

Like how in Karate Kid Part III, Daniel only had to fight the winner of the tourney since he was defending champ. Although Karate's Bad Boy Mike Barnes nearly took him down.

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7 minutes ago, mort1237 said:

Any chance that one day we will just have the top 8 or 16 start in the bracket?

I would find it interesting cause there are no warm up games for elite players and it will give newer players a better shot at the bracket.

 

We tossed around similar ideas before registration this year, but as of now, there isn't a solid way to rank those top 8 or 16 other than historical performance. I've been pinging the regulars about which tournaments they attend every year solely to collect this information.

 

The first step was taken this year to have the Tundra Bowl be a qualifier, which, in my opinion, turned out awesome. The player strength top to bottom was significant. If we can get all the organizers of the known tournaments to pitch in and give their results in a timely manner we can absolutely do something like this. 

 

To continue this trend, we'd need for it to happen at other tournaments as well. We can't have a super weak tournament be a significant portion of the player's ranking. We'd have to come up with the points system or something to have it tallied, Tecmo electoral votes, if you will. This tourney is X points, that tourney is worth Y points. A player's total gets them into the championship tier. Everyone else then battles it out to get to that tier.


On the down side, it could be a boring day for those in the upper tier. 4 hours of just chilling. Reg would be hammered by the time it starts.

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12 minutes ago, davefmurray said:

To continue this trend, we'd need for it to happen at other tournaments as well. We can't have a super weak tournament be a significant portion of the player's ranking. We'd have to come up with the points system or something to have it tallied, Tecmo electoral votes, if you will. This tourney is X points, that tourney is worth Y points. A player's total gets them into the championship tier. Everyone else then battles it out to get to that tier.

You'd almost have to weight it depending on attendees. I know my tournament has had much stronger fields from one year to the next.

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9 minutes ago, Beef Juice said:

You'd almost have to weight it depending on attendees. I know my tournament has had much stronger fields from one year to the next.

 

Yes, exactly. I suppose I skipped over that specific detail. If your tournament is comprised of your hometown friends, you won't get (m)any Tecmo votes... :D

But, if your tournament is sponsored by EatShitOrenga.com, you will get infinite value!

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43 minutes ago, mort1237 said:

Any chance that one day we will just have the top 8 or 16 start in the bracket?

I would find it interesting cause there are no warm up games for elite players and it will give newer players a better shot at the bracket.

 

 

At some point in the future we might be able to do something similar to that depending on numbers. When you look at tournaments that run in the 1000s *and* have shorter per-game timeframes, seeding the top (read: sponsored) players with some byes is a good decision - no one wants to play a daigo, infiltration, or justin wong in the first round at Evo. But we are far from that point now. 

 

Also, as others have pointed out, tecmo is a fickle mistress who mistreats those who mistreat her through fumbles, interceptions, and other little slaps to the hand of the disrespectful. 

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My 2 cents. 

 

1. For the top top seeds(1-32), even though they have to win out,  it likely got a little easier since in theory there likely won't be anyone close in talent( 1 seeds in the first two games have like a 99% win pct). In the 8 man format a 2,3 seed had a small chance of the pool play upset. 

 

2. It got a little harder for the bottom 2 seeds(50-64 range) as they are likely playing someone similar in skill level and now have no margin for error. 

 

3. The odds are roughly the same for anyone else winning it all...

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18 minutes ago, davefmurray said:

 

Yes, exactly. I suppose I skipped over that specific detail. If your tournament is comprised of your hometown friends, you won't get (m)any Tecmo votes... :D

But, if your tournament is sponsored by EatShitOrenga.com, you will get infinite value!

 

To quote his shirt last year, There are only two types of tournaments. Ones that Regulator has won, and ones that don't matter.

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1 hour ago, davefmurray said:

paging @Dotdon

 

1 hour ago, LincolnHawk said:

 

What's your drink of choice dotdon? 

Yes, Lincoln Hawk in my group!!!  I'll love to talk Over the Top, the underrated kick ass soundtrack, and have shots of Jaeger sir.  I better start chugging the motor oil now to prepare.

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19 minutes ago, Dotdon said:

 

Yes, Lincoln Hawk in my group!!!  I'll love to talk Over the Top, the underrated kick ass soundtrack, and have shots of Jaeger sir.  I better start chugging the motor oil now to prepare.

 

Remember that John Grizzly prefers Valvoline.

 

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It can be very random building up an event to be worthy of a Madison qualifier.  I'd like the buffalo tourney to be one.  But I can't guarantee as strong of a field.  Not to mention we need a new date for our tourney.  

NYC would be a great regional. Have you guys found other tourneys to be regionals like tundra bowl.

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5 minutes ago, mort1237 said:

It can be very random building up an event to be worthy of a Madison qualifier.  I'd like the buffalo tourney to be one.  But I can't guarantee as strong of a field.  Not to mention we need a new date for our tourney.  

NYC would be a great regional. Have you guys found other tourneys to be regionals like tundra bowl.

 

I think you could have like 4 or 5 regionals like Tundra Bowl and then have a second tier that feeds them. Like Nate gave the Tomczak winner free entry into Tundra. I'd be fine if Tomczak was a second tier regional tourney or something.

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Just now, mort1237 said:

It can be very random building up an event to be worthy of a Madison qualifier.  I'd like the buffalo tourney to be one.  But I can't guarantee as strong of a field.  Not to mention we need a new date for our tourney.  

NYC would be a great regional. Have you guys found other tourneys to be regionals like tundra bowl.

 

There are a few on our lists. Nothing to announce just yet. :D

 

In theory, they all can be to varying degrees. I'll shoot you an email after Madison and we can talk. ;) 

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3 minutes ago, Beef Juice said:

 

I think you could have like 4 or 5 regionals like Tundra Bowl and then have a second tier that feeds them. Like Nate gave the Tomczak winner free entry into Tundra. I'd be fine if Tomczak was a second tier regional tourney or something.

I think you got a good idea.  Say you make NYC, Midwest and tundra regionals.  Along with one in the south and one on the west coast.  Then there are plenty of options for the next level.

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The Tecmo Gods have an sense humor when it comes to Wifi networks in my neighborhood.  One of my neighbors network is named "Long Live Reg". Hey @regulator088  u gotta another "mystery fan" who is obviously is trolling me. I could see @son_of_pat_beach being behind this again.  hmmm.  Fbi security van lol.

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So I have a couple of dumb questions. When I signed up I also said I would bring a couple controllers and a cartridge. How do you guys keep track of who's is what? Is there labels available? Or are they considered donations?  Sorry, I don't know how it works at all... 

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40 minutes ago, LincolnHawk said:

So I have a couple of dumb questions. When I signed up I also said I would bring a couple controllers and a cartridge. How do you guys keep track of who's is what? Is there labels available? Or are they considered donations?  Sorry, I don't know how it works at all... 

 

Label them with marker?

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48 minutes ago, LincolnHawk said:

So I have a couple of dumb questions. When I signed up I also said I would bring a couple controllers and a cartridge. How do you guys keep track of who's is what? Is there labels available? Or are they considered donations?  Sorry, I don't know how it works at all... 

I would Label your equipment separately beforehand. They may have some materials at check in. You can also drop it off Friday night or Saturday Morning. It is not considered an donation and ofcourse you get it back at end of the tournament. Then as your lawyer i advise you to have a spotted cow or ten and Have as much fun as possible. 

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5 hours ago, Dotdon said:

 

Yes, Lincoln Hawk in my group!!!  I'll love to talk Over the Top, the underrated kick ass soundtrack, and have shots of Jaeger sir.  I better start chugging the motor oil now to prepare.

Don't know if I can drink motor oil, so maybe you can MEET ME HALFWAY..............ACROSS THE SKY!!!! MAKE THIS A NEW BEGINNING OF ANOTHER LIFE!!!!!

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If you ever decide to do regional qualifiers let me know. Bloomington Tecmo has the equipment, and the ability to host a big tournament. We've just always kept it local, but I'm not opposed to holding another event annually. We've been going strong since 2004 with an average of 32 players. This is without even advertising, and not doing cash prizes. This is just a beer drinking festival with everyone playing for the love of the game. Nobody takes it serious. I will still hold my local beer fest tournament, but having a big group come to Bloomington would be pretty cool. I'd even try to find a fall date that would not coincide with any other big tournaments. The main Bloomington tournament will always be held on the Saturday before the Super Bowl, and that will not change. Just keep us in mind in the future. Thanks!

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1 hour ago, LincolnHawk said:

So I have a couple of dumb questions. When I signed up I also said I would bring a couple controllers and a cartridge. How do you guys keep track of who's is what? Is there labels available? Or are they considered donations?  Sorry, I don't know how it works at all... 

 

Yes, we'll have labels for you to use this year.

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