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Congratulations to the Denver Broncos for becoming 2015 NFL Champions!

 

It's now time for a little 'out with the old; in with the new,' and start an NFL 2016-2017 season discussion thread.

 

I'm curious where everyone feels 'their' team needs to strengthen itself?

What are the weak spots on your favorite team that need patching?

Do you think your team has the chance to be a contender next year if those personnel changes are made?

 

And away we go...!

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1 hour ago, Maynard_G_Krebs said:

 

"The ensuing #longread from Shaun King of the Daily News is at times hard to follow, as it attempts to summarize most of the 74 pages in chronological order. Also, King’s article displays a clear anti-Peyton bias, and more than a little melodrama. This #notaslongread item comes from the 74-page document itself, which has been published in full by the Daily News.
Before going any farther, it’s important to understand what the 74-page document is, and what it isn’t. The 74-page document is a piece of advocacy. The 74-page document is something that was written by the lawyers representing Jamie Ann Naughright in her defamation case against the Mannings. The 74-page document is, necessarily, one-sided.
The 74-page document is not objective. The 74-page document is not supposed to be objective. The 74-page document is not a court order or any other decision made by a neutral party. And, ultimately, the 74-page document is incomplete without comparing it to the corresponding “Facts of the Case” document submitted by the defendants in the case."

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5 minutes ago, PockyCandy said:

 

Get out of here with that garbage. Not everything is race. We make everything about race. Their personalities are polar opposite. One is a partier and one is trying to be a hero. That is your difference. Not race.

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11 minutes ago, davefmurray said:

 

Get out of here with that garbage. Not everything is race. We make everything about race. Their personalities are polar opposite. One is a partier and one is trying to be a hero. That is your difference. Not race.


Although I think institutional racism is a big problem in this country, in this case, I agree with with Dave. Another factor in this comparison being a case of apples & oranges is that Cam is a QB, and Gronk is a TE. Football has been positioning the QB as the 'star' for several decades now. Everything Cam does is amplified and scrutinized much more so because of the position he plays.

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18 minutes ago, Maynard_G_Krebs said:


Although I think institutional racism is a big problem in this country, 

 

LOL, SMH.  you must mean the institutions of welfare and affirmative action jobs and college scholarships...or do you refer to a different "institution"?

 

anyways, the "writer" (or HACK, I assume) gives ZERO evidence for his argument.  He just says that "Gronk gets away with it.. But Cam PROBABLY WOULDN'T"....this is not an "article" this is a PILE OF SHIT.  I cannot believe people get paid to "write" this kind of horseshit.

 

Matthew VanTryon , you are the definition of a CUNT.

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It's all been pretty bizarre how Cam Newton received some reasonable criticism and then it devolved into "well look at what player X did, he's worse than Cam but nobody cares!"  I'm pretty neutral on Newton and never thought he was getting treated unfairly... certainly not at a level that warrants all this "white-shaming" media. 

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30 minutes ago, PockyCandy said:

I am so sorry. I shouldn't have posted it. Didn't really think it through. 

 

It's not your fault that Click and Clack have to turn every thread into this.

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To be honest, I'm just sick of the DRAMA side of sports.  A few years ago it was cool to have a storyline here or there, but too many people have too many opinions on everything nowadays.  It's like... just watch the games and STFU!  In some ways, the NFL is getting exactly what it deserves.  In an attempt to generate more and more revenue, they keep marketing to non-traditional audiences (Coldplay and Beyonce at halftime?? C’mon!).  Too many casual fans, people who care more about the drama surrounding the game, than the actual game itself.  Now everyone has an opinion about something and the NFL is forced to address it.  The guy who wrote that article is obviously NOT a football fan.

It reminds me of an NHL conversation here a few years ago:

 

http://tecmobowl.org/forum/topic/57394-nhl-2013-14-discussion-thread/#comment-383438

 

I was quoting MGK when he said:

I bet when the NFL aggressively started doing everything in their power as a capitalistic business to bring in a larger audience (women, moderates, etc.), they didn't realize how much they'd be opening themselves to the scrutiny of the gentrified human resources police, and everyone with an outlet to spew their opinions of how they run their business.

 

My response was:

Hockey is pretty big in Boston (what sport isn't), but when I tell the common person/casual sports fan that I love hockey, it is always met with the same comments.  No one watches hockey, ratings this and that, the rules are dumb, etc...

Honestly, I'm fine with it.  In fact, I prefer it!  

It goes back to your statement above.  The last thing I want is the casual fan taking an interest and eventually forming their sh!tty opinions on what they like and do not like about the sport. 

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9 minutes ago, davefmurray said:

 

Good find! 

The link to the poll is here: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_20516.pdf

 

Also, this proves my previous comment of :

2 hours ago, Bodom said:

Obviously there are always extreme examples, but when it comes to sports, success (not race) is usually the deciding factor on whether a player is like/disliked or heavily scrutinized vs. not cared about.

 

Love how Brady is both the most and least liked.

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36 minutes ago, davefmurray said:

 

While looking for the methodology of this polling I came across this line.

We still throw Tebow in our polling because he's such a lightning rod and despite not actually having played in the NFL in 3 years he comes out as the 5th most popular QB

 

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