RetroNathan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) I don't know if I a remembering correctly, but I thought there was a chart somewhere that had the percentages and odds of catching with certain attributes (WR vs. DB), odds of picks, etc. Anyone know where that is, or if I'm remembering correctly? It was in a table form I believe. @Knobbe @davefmurray Edited January 11, 2016 by RetroNathan OL' Dirty Tecmo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yes there is. I will find the table later. It doesn't apply to dives or certain overthrows. RetroNathan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFM Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Catch/Interception/Incompletion Probability by EdibleAntiPerspirant -------------------------------------------------------------------- (the probability bytes were found by konforce, jstout later figured out how catches, deflections and interceptions were determined) The general formula for this, as you might be able to guess, is PC + REC - INT. The thing that complicates this is that PC and REC use a different group of values than INT. The probabilities can change depending on the number of defenders as well as how accurate the pass is. In this section I've listed a couple of tables that will show the probabilities of a catch, incompletion or interception in various situations. These tables assume that both the receiver and the defender are attempting to make the catch while in a standing position (not diving or jumping). An important thing to note is that PC and REC have a completely equal influence on this, so instead of listing them separately, I added them together in each row. Because of the way the ratings go up in different increments, when you add together the PC and REC, they might be off by 1 from the number listed in the table. It doesn't make a difference. Table 1 - Drop Probability: This table shows the chance that a receiver who is wide open (no defenders near him) will drop a pass when in an upright positon on the X. PC+REC Drop% 12 31% 19 29% 25 27% 31 25% 38 23% 44 21% 50 19% 56 18% 63 16% 69 14% 75 13% 81 11% 88 10% 94 8% 100 7% 106 5% 113 4% 119 3% 125 1% >126 0% Table 2 - Catch/Interception/Incompletion Probability: This one is a little more complicated, this is for the same situation as Table 1 except with a single defender right on the receiver. The three numbers go in the order of Catch-INT-Incomplete. Note that when there are two defenders, the game checks for an interception by both of the defenders, one right after the other, in the order that they are listed in the game. A third defender will have no effect on the play. PC+REC|INT: 6 | 13 | 19 | 25 | 31 | 38 | 44 | 50 12 | 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33| 0-73-27| 0-79-21 19 | 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33| 0-73-27 25 | 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33 31 | 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38 38 | 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43 44 | 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48 50 | 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52 56 | 12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56 63 | 16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60 69 | 20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64 75 | 24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68 81 | 28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71 88 | 32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72 94 | 35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70 100 | 38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68 106 | 42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67 113 | 45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65 119 | 48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64 125 | 50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62 131 | 53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61 138 | 56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60 144 | 58- 0-42|56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59 150 | 61- 0-39|58- 0-42|56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58 156 | 63- 0-37|61- 0-39|58- 0-42|56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55 163 | 66- 0-34|63- 0-37|61- 0-39|58- 0-42|56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52 169 | 68- 0-32|66- 0-34|63- 0-37|61- 0-39|58- 0-42|56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50 175 | 70- 0-30|68- 0-32|66- 0-34|63- 0-37|61- 0-39|58- 0-42|56- 0-44|53- 0-47 181 | 72- 0-28|70- 0-30|68- 0-32|66- 0-34|63- 0-37|61- 0-39|58- 0-42|56- 0-44 188 | 74- 0-26|72- 0-28|70- 0-30|68- 0-32|66- 0-34|63- 0-37|61- 0-39|58- 0-42 194 | 76- 0-24|74- 0-26|72- 0-28|70- 0-30|68- 0-32|66- 0-34|63- 0-37|61- 0-39 200 | 78- 0-22|76- 0-24|74- 0-26|72- 0-28|70- 0-30|68- 0-32|66- 0-34|63- 0-37 PC+REC|INT:56 | 63 | 69 | 75 | 81 | 88 | 94 | 100 12 | 0-85-15| 0-92- 8| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0 19 | 0-79-21| 0-85-15| 0-92- 8| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0 25 | 0-73-27| 0-79-21| 0-85-15| 0-92- 8| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0 31 | 0-67-33| 0-73-27| 0-79-21| 0-85-15| 0-92- 8| 0-100-0| 0-100-0| 0-100-0 38 | 0-62-38| 0-67-33| 0-73-27| 0-79-21| 0-85-15| 0-92- 8| 0-100-0| 0-100-0 44 | 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33| 0-73-27| 0-79-21| 0-85-15| 0-92- 8| 0-100-0 50 | 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33| 0-73-27| 0-79-21| 0-85-15| 0-92- 8 56 | 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33| 0-73-27| 0-79-21| 0-85-15 63 | 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33| 0-73-27| 0-79-21 69 | 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33| 0-73-27 75 | 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38| 0-67-33 81 | 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43| 0-62-38 88 | 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48| 0-57-43 94 | 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52| 0-52-48 100 | 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56| 0-48-52 106 | 12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60| 0-44-56 113 | 16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64| 0-40-60 119 | 20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68| 0-36-64 125 | 24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71| 0-32-68 131 | 28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72| 0-29-71 138 | 32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70| 2-26-72 144 | 35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68| 7-23-70 150 | 38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67|12-20-68 156 | 42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65|16-17-67 163 | 45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64|20-15-65 169 | 48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62|24-12-64 175 | 50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61|28-10-62 181 | 53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60|32- 7-61 188 | 56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59|35- 5-60 194 | 58- 0-42|56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58|38- 3-59 200 | 61- 0-39|58- 0-42|56- 0-44|53- 0-47|50- 0-50|48- 0-52|45- 0-55|42- 0-58 Source: http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/587686-tecmo-super-bowl/faqs/44195 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OL' Dirty Tecmo Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Compliments of the Randi School of Tecmo. Pretty sure this would cost about 25 hours, $250, and your sanity. Get it here for free!! Tecmo Probability.txt RetroNathan, Ryan11p and manYo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNathan Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Perfect, thank you all. I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFM Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 28 minutes ago, Ol' Dirty Tecmo said: Compliments of the Randi School of Tecmo. Pretty sure this would cost about 25 hours, $250, and your sanity. Get it here for free!! Tecmo Probability.txt LOL You know Randy didn't make those, right? RetroNathan and OL' Dirty Tecmo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamphuna8 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, davefmurray said: LOL You know Randy didn't make those, right? We all do, but that didn't stop rdleifraif from insinuating that it was worth paying for his school of tecmo for DFM and RetroNathan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OL' Dirty Tecmo Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 43 minutes ago, davefmurray said: LOL You know Randy didn't make those, right? Oh my God yes!! Yes!! Dripping sarcasm all. DFM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNathan Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 You mean these claims made at the beginning of the document are misleading?!? This sales pitch isn't backed up by his own work?!? "Want to get better at Tecmo Super Bowl? Haven't been getting anywhere? Randy Fairfield's School of Tecmo just might be what you're looking for. Randy Fairfield is a Tecmo Super Bowl master, winning it all in Season 5 of the HSTL as well as placing 1st in the 2012 PNW Tecmo Championship. He is a master teacher and a self-proclaimed expert in the field of strategy. It's time to enroll in Randy Fairfield's School of Tecmo today! At just the low price of $10/hr, it'll easily be the best money you've ever spent! Just ask Twister. Enroll now and following the session, you will receive a detailed FAQ about the first eight topics mentioned. Never before has such a vast amount of Tecmo knowledge ever been aggregated into one document! Minimum of two hours per enrollment required." OL' Dirty Tecmo and DFM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFM Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, RetroNathan said: You mean these claims made at the beginning of the document are misleading?!? This sales pitch isn't backed up by his own work?!? "Want to get better at Tecmo Super Bowl? Haven't been getting anywhere? Randy Fairfield's School of Tecmo just might be what you're looking for. Randy Fairfield is a Tecmo Super Bowl master, winning it all in Season 5 of the HSTL as well as placing 1st in the 2012 PNW Tecmo Championship. He is a master teacher and a self-proclaimed expert in the field of strategy. It's time to enroll in Randy Fairfield's School of Tecmo today! At just the low price of $10/hr, it'll easily be the best money you've ever spent! Just ask Twister. Enroll now and following the session, you will receive a detailed FAQ about the first eight topics mentioned. Never before has such a vast amount of Tecmo knowledge ever been aggregated into one document! Minimum of two hours per enrollment required." Oh my gosh. Hahahahahah I didn't download it. Dude, the School of Tecmo was amazing. I would read a biography on Randy and his antics. Just sayin'... @Ol' Dirty Tecmo @kamphuna8 OL' Dirty Tecmo and kamphuna8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNathan Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Who actually did this comprehensive probability guide years ago? Was it @bruddog? It's pretty impressive. Edited January 11, 2016 by RetroNathan OL' Dirty Tecmo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OL' Dirty Tecmo Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Holy fuck you know if you say a trolls name three times...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFM Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 43 minutes ago, RetroNathan said: Who actually did this comprehensive probability guide years ago? Was it @bruddog? It's pretty impressive. No, source linked above: Source: http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/587686-tecmo-super-bowl/faqs/44195 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNathan Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, davefmurray said: No, source linked above: Source: http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/587686-tecmo-super-bowl/faqs/44195 Yeah, that's the one I'm looking through and referring to. I saw @bruddog and some others did it. I wasn't sure who EdibleAntiPerspirant was. Edited January 11, 2016 by RetroNathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFM Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just now, RetroNathan said: Yeah, that's the one I'm looking through. I saw @bruddog and some others did it. I wasn't sure who EdibleAntiPerspirant was. Some dude who made it in 2006, not a T-Borger as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroNathan Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Gotcha. Cool, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruddog Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Nope, I only posted the spreadsheet tool. I didn't spend time making the whole chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonickmontana Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, davefmurray said: Some dude who made it in 2006, not a T-Borger as far as I know. But do you know Leif Powers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFM Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, gonickmontana said: But do you know Leif Powers? Other than his FAQ, no. 02/03 was a bit before my Knobbe.org time as I was on the UTL & PT boards back then. Was he a member here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Tailback King~ Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 On 1/11/2016 at 8:56 AM, bruddog said: Yes there is. I will find the table later. It doesn't apply to dives or certain overthrows. Yes, and the table, dives, and certain overthrows don't apply to Johnny Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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